Two Fine and Characteristic Military Matchlock Muskets, Suhl, ca. 1615-20

Marcus den toom · 26th February 2014, 02:36 PM

Beautiful and elegant weapons

I see an iron mount protruding from the lock? Was this to hold the match cord?

Matchlock · 26th February 2014, 02:46 PM

Hi Marcus,

As I cannot see what you seem to see, could you please mark the spot for me to identify? There seems to be nothing to this lock mechanism that ought not to be there.

Best,
m

Marcus den toom · 26th February 2014, 03:10 PM

I think i already see what it is, the hook which keeps the gun on the wall.
Its a bit of an optical illusion, but nothing special

Matchlock · 26th February 2014, 03:14 PM

It is a museum's hook in the wall!

m

Marcus den toom · 26th February 2014, 05:38 PM

I really need new glasses...

I looked at the Dutch army museum's (Delft) online collection and found these examples.
They do have a very typical form i would say (but seeing as i just confused a wall hanger for a matchcord holder i will not go forth and try to state a fact

)

Matchlock · 26th February 2014, 05:49 PM

Great selection, Marcus,

Thank you for posting!

Telling by the serpentines I should say these are a bit later/younger, 1620's.

Do you happen to know their overall length?

m

Marcus den toom · 26th February 2014, 06:30 PM

Thank you Michael

Allas, the Dutch "zuinigheid" (frugality) didn't permit them to write this down i think...
the second one does have a discription which can be translated roughly to: "Partly round with octagonal barrel. Topside of barrel with raised sight en two unidentified markings (one of which a shield with three crosses). Stock partly restored (butt stock) and some woodworm damages."

http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/...tring=lontslot

26th February 2014, 02:46 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, As I cannot see what you seem to see, could you please mark the spot for me to identify? There seems to be nothing to this lock mechanism that ought not to be there. Best, m Last edited by Matchlock; 26th February 2014 at 03:04 PM.

26th February 2014, 02:36 PM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Beautiful and elegant weapons I see an iron mount protruding from the lock? Was this to hold the match cord?

26th February 2014, 03:10 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	I think i already see what it is, the hook which keeps the gun on the wall. Its a bit of an optical illusion, but nothing special

26th February 2014, 03:14 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	It is a museum's hook in the wall! m

26th February 2014, 05:38 PM	#5
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	I really need new glasses... I looked at the Dutch army museum's (Delft) online collection and found these examples. They do have a very typical form i would say (but seeing as i just confused a wall hanger for a matchcord holder i will not go forth and try to state a fact )

26th February 2014, 05:49 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Great selection, Marcus, Thank you for posting! Telling by the serpentines I should say these are a bit later/younger, 1620's. Do you happen to know their overall length? m

26th February 2014, 06:30 PM	#7
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Thank you Michael Allas, the Dutch "zuinigheid" (frugality) didn't permit them to write this down i think... the second one does have a discription which can be translated roughly to: "Partly round with octagonal barrel. Topside of barrel with raised sight en two unidentified markings (one of which a shield with three crosses). Stock partly restored (butt stock) and some woodworm damages." http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/...tring=lontslot