Balinese Keris for consideration/comment

Jean · 13th February 2014, 10:01 AM

Hello Vogan,
This style of pamor seems quite common in Lombok, see two other blades in my collection which look quite similar. According to the book from Djelenga I have identified this pamor style as Rante or Srante (chain) but other attributions could be given.
Best regards

A. G. Maisey · 13th February 2014, 12:08 PM

Thanks Jean.

However, this is not pamor rante.

I can see how you thought it might be, because in the example that Djelenga gives a small part comes close to the pattern, but rante must have the "pools" of pamor which represent the links in a chain, joined by a narrow strip. Djelenga's example comes close in a few spots, but the ideal is for clearly defined links to be joined by clearly defined narrow strips.

The examples you show, and Vogan's keris do not come close to being a rante pamor.

The possibilities that I propose are just pools of pamor without the narrow strip, as is Vogan's keris.

Rante is a very common Madura pamor, and is also known in Jawa, it is similar to melati rinonce, they are in fact exactly the same pamor, made in the same way, but melati rinonce is usually smaller and neater than rante. From memory, I think Tammens gives a good example of rante, and because he used sketches the design is easier to understand than an actual blade.

13th February 2014, 10:01 AM	#1
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Vogan, This style of pamor seems quite common in Lombok, see two other blades in my collection which look quite similar. According to the book from Djelenga I have identified this pamor style as Rante or Srante (chain) but other attributions could be given. Best regards Attached Images

13th February 2014, 12:08 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Thanks Jean. However, this is not pamor rante. I can see how you thought it might be, because in the example that Djelenga gives a small part comes close to the pattern, but rante must have the "pools" of pamor which represent the links in a chain, joined by a narrow strip. Djelenga's example comes close in a few spots, but the ideal is for clearly defined links to be joined by clearly defined narrow strips. The examples you show, and Vogan's keris do not come close to being a rante pamor. The possibilities that I propose are just pools of pamor without the narrow strip, as is Vogan's keris. Rante is a very common Madura pamor, and is also known in Jawa, it is similar to melati rinonce, they are in fact exactly the same pamor, made in the same way, but melati rinonce is usually smaller and neater than rante. From memory, I think Tammens gives a good example of rante, and because he used sketches the design is easier to understand than an actual blade.