Katzbalgers and Related Landsknecht Swords

cornelistromp · 11th January 2014, 09:27 PM

Michael,

thank you this is very enlightening for me and extremely interesting, I Always saw the four a a half 8, actually now I see it is not.

If you rotate the Gothic 4 by 90 degrees you will indeed get the later 4.
Also very nice that you found and posted examples of these rotated 4 at the end of the 15th and begining of the 16thC century's.

best,
Jasper

Matchlock · 11th January 2014, 09:36 PM

Hi Jasper,

Not to forget, at the beginning of the 15th c. this sort of writing style of 4 can be found as well: 1407!!!

Also, note the representation of the first numeral 1 as m, based on the Latin word mille, in the obsolete Romanesque/High Gothic style, denoting the mixture of writings at the threshold to the 'modern' Late-Gothic period of the early 15th century!

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 11th January 2014, 11:08 PM

Wow, folks,

I just noticed that this thread had 60.035 views !!! as of today, 11 January 2014, midnight!
I have turned 61 today, and this doubtlessly is my greatest birthday present.

You've made it possible, thank you so much for trusting me, and for contributing that diligently, with 407 replies!

Good night to all of you, wherever you are,
and best,
Michael

cornelistromp · 12th January 2014, 09:46 AM

a very happy birthday Michael,

indeed a beautiful birthday gift, congratulations on your 61th and many more years full of weapons inspiration, up to the 100.000 with this thread.

very best wishes from holland,
Jasper

small present: battle between landsknechts

Matchlock · 12th January 2014, 12:41 PM

Oh my God, Jasper,

I'm so baffled that I don't know what to say, so I just say 'thanks a million' for that brilliant idea and the thoughtful gift etching of the Landsknechts!

Best wishes as ever,
Michael

fernando · 12th January 2014, 01:02 PM

Ah ... you Bavarian villain

I tought your aniversary was confidential

Well, here it goes with my wishes for the one zillion views.

PARABENS P'RA VOCÊ,
NESTA DATA QUERIDA,
MUITAS FELICIDADES
MUITOS ANOS DE VIDA

Relax, no bad thoughts; this is only the Portuguese version of Happy Birthday to you

Matchlock · 12th January 2014, 01:59 PM

... and all the best for the new year to come in my life - I understand sufficient of any Roman language to be able and get the sense when I see it written down!

Muito obrigado, amigo meu 'Nando!

Actually I was determined to keep my birthday secret because I never celebrate but then I got sort of carried away by those multiple views of my thread ...

m

11th January 2014, 09:36 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Jasper, Not to forget, at the beginning of the 15th c. this sort of writing style of 4 can be found as well: 1407!!! Also, note the representation of the first numeral 1 as m, based on the Latin word mille, in the obsolete Romanesque/High Gothic style, denoting the mixture of writings at the threshold to the 'modern' Late-Gothic period of the early 15th century! Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 11th January 2014 at 10:34 PM.

11th January 2014, 11:08 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Wow, folks, I just noticed that this thread had 60.035 views !!! as of today, 11 January 2014, midnight! I have turned 61 today, and this doubtlessly is my greatest birthday present. You've made it possible, thank you so much for trusting me, and for contributing that diligently, with 407 replies! Good night to all of you, wherever you are, and best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 11th January 2014 at 11:18 PM.

12th January 2014, 09:46 AM	#4
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	a very happy birthday Michael, indeed a beautiful birthday gift, congratulations on your 61th and many more years full of weapons inspiration, up to the 100.000 with this thread. very best wishes from holland, Jasper small present: battle between landsknechts Attached Images

12th January 2014, 01:02 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Ah ... you Bavarian villain I tought your aniversary was confidential Well, here it goes with my wishes for the one zillion views. PARABENS P'RA VOCÊ, NESTA DATA QUERIDA, MUITAS FELICIDADES MUITOS ANOS DE VIDA Relax, no bad thoughts; this is only the Portuguese version of Happy Birthday to you Last edited by fernando; 12th January 2014 at 01:15 PM.

11th January 2014, 09:27 PM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	Michael, thank you this is very enlightening for me and extremely interesting, I Always saw the four a a half 8, actually now I see it is not. If you rotate the Gothic 4 by 90 degrees you will indeed get the later 4. Also very nice that you found and posted examples of these rotated 4 at the end of the 15th and begining of the 16thC century's. best, Jasper

12th January 2014, 12:41 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Oh my God, Jasper, I'm so baffled that I don't know what to say, so I just say 'thanks a million' for that brilliant idea and the thoughtful gift etching of the Landsknechts! Best wishes as ever, Michael

12th January 2014, 01:59 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	... and all the best for the new year to come in my life - I understand sufficient of any Roman language to be able and get the sense when I see it written down! Muito obrigado, amigo meu 'Nando! Actually I was determined to keep my birthday secret because I never celebrate but then I got sort of carried away by those multiple views of my thread ... m