Jamdhar/katar why do we call it a katar?

[Jens Nordlunde]

Well said Jim. I believe that all who try to get something published, will try to get it as right as possible, but we all have to read about it from old sources.
Some can be lucky to get the right source, while others are unlucky and chooses the wrong source.
None of us lived at the time we try to tell about, so we can not be quite sure, which source is the right one, but we hope, after examination, that the one choosen is the right one - at least I do when I write an article.
AhmedH, it is very interesting what you write, and I do hope you will stay with us, and help us with this, for us, very difficult subject.
Jens

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

Well said Jim. I believe that all who try to get something published, will try to get it as right as possible, but we all have to read about it from old sources.
Some can be lucky to get the right source, while others are unlucky and chooses the wrong source.
None of us lived at the time we try to tell about, so we can not be quite sure, which source is the right one, but we hope, after examination, that the one choosen is the right one - at least I do when I write an article.
AhmedH, it is very interesting what you write, and I do hope you will stay with us, and help us with this, for us, very difficult subject.
Jens

Salaams Jens,

I'll stay in this forum as long as I'm alive and capable to participate. Also, I'll do my best in order to give help...and receive help too!

Thanks a lot for your generosity, Sir!

As ever,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by AhmedH

Salaams Jens,

I'll stay in this forum as long as I'm alive and capable to participate. Also, I'll do my best in order to give help...and receive help too!

Thanks a lot for your generosity, Sir!

As ever,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

Very nicely put Ahmed, and just wanted to say your positive approach and attitude is outstanding!

Jens, thank you for the kind words as well.

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Very nicely put Ahmed, and just wanted to say your positive approach and attitude is outstanding!

Jens, thank you for the kind words as well.

Salaams Jim,

It is I who am thankful to your very nice and encouraging words!

As ever,
Ahmed

[Emanuel]

Hello,

For reference I attach a tree of the Indo-European languages.

Higher up the tree generally suggests older.

The oldest written Greek dates from ~1500 BCE, while the oldest Old Persian written evidence dates from ~500 BCE and is thought to have developed by ~1000 BCE. Similar dates for Vedic Sanskrit



Emanuel

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by Emanuel

Hello,

For reference I attach a tree of the Indo-European languages.

Higher up the tree generally suggests older.

The oldest written Greek dates from ~1500 BCE, while the oldest Old Persian written evidence dates from ~500 BCE and is thought to have developed by ~1000 BCE. Similar dates for Vedic Sanskrit



Emanuel

Salaams Emanuel!

Thanks a lot for providing this table. Very informant indeed! However, one must be EXTREMELY careful regarding taking such information for granted. You'll find countless sites claiming that Vedic Sanskrit is the world's oldest language. The Persians date their language to at least 3100 BCE. The Arabs claim that their language was spoken by Adam, and they have some proof for that. Kurds claim that Noah (PBUH), his wife, three sons, and their wives, had their ship landing on Mount Goudi in Kurdistan (something affirmed in the Qur'an), and that the village they found after the deluge was called "Hushtan" (that of the eight people); that being in 3800 BCE.

I really believe that this is a very sensitive issue; since it may cause a lot of disagreement; not just between the creationists and the evolutionists, but between the creationists themselves... and also between the evolutionists themselves.

The fact is that I've listened, read, and even studied about this issue for longer than I should have done, and the truth is that I've heard so many claims regarding this oldest language debate until I was greatly confused. However, I must admit that I came out with very good information about many languages and how they influenced other languages.

To be honest, I found the Arab and Kurdish claims to be the most convincing, but others are free to challenge such claims.

Hope this clears up any confusion!

As ever,
Ahmed Helal Hussein