Heavey Fullered Hijaz Jambiya

kahnjar1 · 5th January 2014, 10:18 PM

Hi Steve,
My reply was related to your original questions so did not include blade stabilisers of which I know nothing. I assume these were to hold the blade steady in the hilt?
Had forgotten where I got that multi fullered/ribbed Dharia, but find Artzi's comments interesting especially since I have two of these blade types and you also do. Certainly the multi fullered/ribbed style appears in Elgood's book but I have not seen it illustrated in any of the other books I have.
So lets agree that they are not common, but I tend to take the term "rare" with a grain of salt. I would however accept the description of "unusual", as most Dharia blades seem to be either single ribbed or flatish with no rib.
Stu

archer · 6th January 2014, 05:00 PM

Hi Stu, We agree that " unusual" is the better term for these blades, I think the visual attraction is all to do with additional ribs without them you are left with half a fuller on the outer edges. Always interesting to find variations to the norm. Finding the reinforcement is just a fluke they are likely on all of these hilts. Your responses and opinions are always welcome and helpful.
As you said, I haven't found any Arabian Armour, so far. In Elgoods' title, "Arms and Armour of Arabia" How does Armour apply, bucklers, captured Armour?

kahnjar1 · 6th January 2014, 07:21 PM

There is a Buckler illustrated in Elgood's book. I have one of these and pic attached here. As far as actual armour is concerned, I suppose it is likely that some "foreign" items may have been acquired, but I have not seen any illustrations of these in actual use.
Stu

A.alnakkas · 6th January 2014, 10:21 PM

Nice dharia. Congrats mate.

Agree with Stu on his analysis but I dont think the blade is machine made, but agree on the time line.

6th January 2014, 07:21 PM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,799	There is a Buckler illustrated in Elgood's book. I have one of these and pic attached here. As far as actual armour is concerned, I suppose it is likely that some "foreign" items may have been acquired, but I have not seen any illustrations of these in actual use. Stu Attached Images

5th January 2014, 10:18 PM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,799	Hi Steve, My reply was related to your original questions so did not include blade stabilisers of which I know nothing. I assume these were to hold the blade steady in the hilt? Had forgotten where I got that multi fullered/ribbed Dharia, but find Artzi's comments interesting especially since I have two of these blade types and you also do. Certainly the multi fullered/ribbed style appears in Elgood's book but I have not seen it illustrated in any of the other books I have. So lets agree that they are not common, but I tend to take the term "rare" with a grain of salt. I would however accept the description of "unusual", as most Dharia blades seem to be either single ribbed or flatish with no rib. Stu

6th January 2014, 05:00 PM	#2
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	Hi Stu, We agree that " unusual" is the better term for these blades, I think the visual attraction is all to do with additional ribs without them you are left with half a fuller on the outer edges. Always interesting to find variations to the norm. Finding the reinforcement is just a fluke they are likely on all of these hilts. Your responses and opinions are always welcome and helpful. As you said, I haven't found any Arabian Armour, so far. In Elgoods' title, "Arms and Armour of Arabia" How does Armour apply, bucklers, captured Armour?

6th January 2014, 10:21 PM	#4
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Nice dharia. Congrats mate. Agree with Stu on his analysis but I dont think the blade is machine made, but agree on the time line.