Rare Blunderbuss with folding bayonet

[Marcus den toom]

Hi Michael,

I am indeed suprised in a good way to find you in this topic
When the blunderbuss will arrive at my home, i will investigate the name Ketland on it. It might be William or Thomas Ketland instead of Ketland & co (it would make more sense if the butstock is of 1770's design).
I wondered, the pancover has a roller... i always believed they only came into fashion from around 1800's ?

Fernando, do you have a picture of this other specimen? I couldn't find it

[Marcus den toom]

Also, does anyone know a good restorer? The dog needs to be repaired

[Matchlock]

Originally Posted by Marcus den toom

Hi Michael,

I am indeed suprised in a good way to find you in this topic
When the blunderbuss will arrive at my home, i will investigate the name Ketland on it. It might be William or Thomas Ketland instead of Ketland & co (it would make more sense if the butstock is of 1770's design).
I wondered, the pancover has a roller... i always believed they only came into fashion from around 1800's ?

That frizzen roller first appeared in the 1780's, so let's say '1780's' for your blunderbuss. By the early 1800's, the dog has taken on the inverted C-shape.

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[fernando]

Here you are. Not so good but ... will have to do

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[Fernando K]

Hello:

The P and V crowned, is the brand Testbed Birmingham before 1813.

Affectionately. Fernando K

[Fernando K]

Hello:

On page 57 of D. R. Baxter "Blunderbusses" is photographed a blunderbuss with bayonet aside, and the same restraints. Posted by PERRY, punches and English test.

Fernando K

[M ELEY]

The spring-loaded bayonet was actually patented by Waters in the 1780's. Many of the brass barreled blunderbus pistols used by naval officers have this mechanism, as do the larger ones, like your example. I have the former type, with a mechanism whereby the bayonet springs and locks in place when you pull back on the trigger guard. Many other Birmingham makers used similar mechanisms, but Mr. Waters was the first. My flintlock naval pistol dates to 1790's based on marks. Yours is a nice piece and could have been a coach gun (used to disuade highwaymen!). The brass barrel types were used as coachguns and at sea (brass resisting rust from salt corrosion).

If you happen to be watching the 'Pirates of the Caribbean' series and see the scene where Jack Sparrow is surrounded by men with guns and the little short fellow draws a pistol and let's fly with the spring bayonet, that's the naval pistol I speak of (It was a real antique piece used in the movie, a Waters example).

[Marcus den toom]

Hi all,

Thank you for your comments and information
The scene from pirates of the caribean is known to me, but i thoughed they only used replica arms in the movie... some of them pretty bad ones (except for the flintlock carbine used by Jack to shoot a few kegs of powder )

Fernando K, could you make a picture of the blunderbuss with text please?

[Fernando K]

Dear Marcus:

I have no scanner, I'm a bad photograph .....

Affectionately. Fernando K