Jousting Knights Lived Dangerously!

Matchlock · 24th December 2013, 02:45 PM

- Gregor Baci, a Hungarian Nobleman

According to tradition, the man portrayed is the Hungarian nobleman Gregor Baci, who was healed after having a lance pierce his right eye during a tournament. In the inventory of 1621 he is identified as an Hungarian hussar, who suffered this injury while fighting against the Turks. In the case of portraits of unusual people the interest of the collector, Archduke Ferdinand II, was not focussed on the painting as a work of art but rather on the person portrayed, his special destiny and his deeds. These were simply the qualities that made him a celebrity and raised him above the level of the average person. This desire to preserve the whole person and his deeds for posterity was, of course, also the motivation for collecting weapons and armour of famous rulers in his heroes armoury (wikipedia).

kronckew · 24th December 2013, 03:03 PM

gregor's granny always told him that he could put somebodies eye out with that thing.

bet it smarted a bit.

Matchlock · 24th December 2013, 03:13 PM

Grrreat, and thanks, both Kronckew and 'Nando,

Your comments sure have brightened up my Christmas Eve! And I was afraid nobody would be gonna care today ...

My old service guns don't have too much to add either; they prefer keeping silent on everything they've been put thru 400 to 700 years ago but you can see the score is written in the scratches on their stocks and barrels ... Those visions sometimes make me kinda tremble ...

Now go on celebrate with your loved ones, everybody!

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 24th December 2013, 03:28 PM

The catalog seems to be available only via the Kunsthistorisches Museum Wien (Vienna), the price is euro 24.95 plus postage.

m

fernando · 24th December 2013, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

...Now go on celebrate with your love ones, everybody! ...

We are (also) celebrating here

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kronckew · 24th December 2013, 06:05 PM

those photos were just stunning and i'm jealous as i'll likely never get to see it in person.

the bavarian genes in me admire the beauty and want to go out for a beer.

the prussian gene lurking in the background wonders how they defended the castle with all them windows and gaps in the walls. (and no moat monster).

aw heck. tonite i'll be bavarian. or maybe tyrolean - i am after all half austrian.

Fröliche Weihnachten! und ein Gutes Neue Jahr!

Grusse Gott,

Matchlock · 24th December 2013, 06:22 PM

Can there be an ethnic mixture more promising?!

PROST - cheers!

m

fernando · 24th December 2013, 06:40 PM

What ... beer ? No !

I will eat my 8 cms. thick fish cod with a dry fruity Douro white and will follow with a (14º vol.) red, also from Douro ... to keep in the same region. Will accompany Christmas dessert with a sparkling brut from the Bairrada area

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Marcus den toom · 24th December 2013, 06:31 PM

Great footage Michael

Aaaah to be a German, es wäre toll gewesen

A friendly german send me this last year after a great deal on a wheel lock i bought from him, Wunderbar

"When the snow falls wunderbar
And the children happy are,
When is Glatteis on the street,
And we all a Glühwein need,
Then you know, it is soweit:
She is here, the Weihnachtszeit

Every Parkhaus ist besetzt,
Weil die people fahren jetzt
All to Kaufhof, Mediamarkt,
Kriegen nearly Herzinfarkt.
Shopping hirnverbrannte things
And the Christmasglocke rings.

Merry Christmas, merry Christmas,
Hear the music, see the lights,
Frohe Weihnacht, Frohe Weihnacht,
Merry Christmas allerseits...

Mother in the kitchen bakes
Schoko-, Nuss- and Mandelkeks
Daddy in the Nebenraum
Schmücks a Riesen-Weihnachtsbaum
He is hanging auf the balls,
Then he from the Leiter falls...

Finally the Kinderlein
To the Zimmer kommen rein
And it sings the family
Schauerlich: "Oh, Christmastree!"
And everybody in the house
Is packing die Geschenke aus.

Merry Christmas, merry Christmas,
Hear the music, see the lights,
Frohe Weihnacht, Frohe Weihnacht
Merry Christmas allerseits...

Mama finds under the Tanne
Eine brandnew Teflon-Pfanne,
Papa gets a Schlips and Socken,
Everybody does frohlocken.

President speaks in TV,
All around is Harmonie,
Bis mother in the kitchen runs:
Im Ofen burns the Weihnachtsgans.

And so comes die Feuerwehr
With Tatü, tata daher,
And they bring a long, long Schlauch
And a long, long Leiter auch.
And they crying: "Wasser marsch!"
Weihnachtsfest is now im Arsch.

Merry Christmas, merry Christmas,
Hear the music, see the lights,
Frohe Weihnacht, Frohe Weihnacht
Merry Christmas allerseits!"

24th December 2013, 02:45 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	- Gregor Baci, a Hungarian Nobleman According to tradition, the man portrayed is the Hungarian nobleman Gregor Baci, who was healed after having a lance pierce his right eye during a tournament. In the inventory of 1621 he is identified as an Hungarian hussar, who suffered this injury while fighting against the Turks. In the case of portraits of unusual people the interest of the collector, Archduke Ferdinand II, was not focussed on the painting as a work of art but rather on the person portrayed, his special destiny and his deeds. These were simply the qualities that made him a celebrity and raised him above the level of the average person. This desire to preserve the whole person and his deeds for posterity was, of course, also the motivation for collecting weapons and armour of famous rulers in his heroes armoury (wikipedia). Attached Images

24th December 2013, 03:13 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Grrreat, and thanks, both Kronckew and 'Nando, Your comments sure have brightened up my Christmas Eve! And I was afraid nobody would be gonna care today ... My old service guns don't have too much to add either; they prefer keeping silent on everything they've been put thru 400 to 700 years ago but you can see the score is written in the scratches on their stocks and barrels ... Those visions sometimes make me kinda tremble ... Now go on celebrate with your loved ones, everybody! Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 24th December 2013 at 05:15 PM.

24th December 2013, 03:28 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The catalog seems to be available only via the Kunsthistorisches Museum Wien (Vienna), the price is euro 24.95 plus postage. m Attached Images

24th December 2013, 06:05 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,263	those photos were just stunning and i'm jealous as i'll likely never get to see it in person. the bavarian genes in me admire the beauty and want to go out for a beer. the prussian gene lurking in the background wonders how they defended the castle with all them windows and gaps in the walls. (and no moat monster). aw heck. tonite i'll be bavarian. or maybe tyrolean - i am after all half austrian. Fröliche Weihnachten! und ein Gutes Neue Jahr! Grusse Gott, Last edited by kronckew; 24th December 2013 at 06:26 PM.

24th December 2013, 03:03 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,263	gregor's granny always told him that he could put somebodies eye out with that thing. bet it smarted a bit.

24th December 2013, 06:22 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Can there be an ethnic mixture more promising?! PROST - cheers! m

24th December 2013, 06:40 PM	#8
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	What ... beer ? No ! I will eat my 8 cms. thick fish cod with a dry fruity Douro white and will follow with a (14º vol.) red, also from Douro ... to keep in the same region. Will accompany Christmas dessert with a sparkling brut from the Bairrada area .

24th December 2013, 06:31 PM	#9
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 543	Great footage Michael Aaaah to be a German, es wäre toll gewesen A friendly german send me this last year after a great deal on a wheel lock i bought from him, Wunderbar "When the snow falls wunderbar And the children happy are, When is Glatteis on the street, And we all a Glühwein need, Then you know, it is soweit: She is here, the Weihnachtszeit Every Parkhaus ist besetzt, Weil die people fahren jetzt All to Kaufhof, Mediamarkt, Kriegen nearly Herzinfarkt. Shopping hirnverbrannte things And the Christmasglocke rings. Merry Christmas, merry Christmas, Hear the music, see the lights, Frohe Weihnacht, Frohe Weihnacht, Merry Christmas allerseits... Mother in the kitchen bakes Schoko-, Nuss- and Mandelkeks Daddy in the Nebenraum Schmücks a Riesen-Weihnachtsbaum He is hanging auf the balls, Then he from the Leiter falls... Finally the Kinderlein To the Zimmer kommen rein And it sings the family Schauerlich: "Oh, Christmastree!" And everybody in the house Is packing die Geschenke aus. Merry Christmas, merry Christmas, Hear the music, see the lights, Frohe Weihnacht, Frohe Weihnacht Merry Christmas allerseits... Mama finds under the Tanne Eine brandnew Teflon-Pfanne, Papa gets a Schlips and Socken, Everybody does frohlocken. President speaks in TV, All around is Harmonie, Bis mother in the kitchen runs: Im Ofen burns the Weihnachtsgans. And so comes die Feuerwehr With Tatü, tata daher, And they bring a long, long Schlauch And a long, long Leiter auch. And they crying: "Wasser marsch!" Weihnachtsfest is now im Arsch. Merry Christmas, merry Christmas, Hear the music, see the lights, Frohe Weihnacht, Frohe Weihnacht Merry Christmas allerseits!"