German hackbut barrel

Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 04:03 PM

Thanks, Marcus,

The classification list of Czerny's is a catastrophe: the matchlock petronel is not listed either among 'long guns' or 'military firearms'! Thus I could not find it without knowing its lot no.

Could you please post the description and measurements of that haquebut barrel? Their catalog no. 40 is no longer online.

Best,
Michael

Marcus den toom · 19th December 2013, 04:11 PM

Hi Michael,

All the Italian auction houses i know are a mess

But it was a specccial sale, so it was listed in a other categorie i think.
There is not uch to go on, but this is all

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provenance: Germany
dating: 15th Century

description: Heavy, smooth, round barrel with square nozzle, a strong hook at the front, breech with pan and sight.

note

condition: good
dimensions: length 123.5 cm.
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Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 05:05 PM

Thanks a lot, Marcus,

For the information!

Best,
m

Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 07:35 PM

Hi Marcus,

As you do know Czerny's latest catalog so well, could you please tell me the lot no. of the wheellock combination weapon (a sword, a mace or an axe?) marked red on their cover scan attached?

I could not find it in any of their sections but it must be there somewhere ...

Thanks again in advance for your assistance,
Michael

Marcus den toom · 19th December 2013, 08:04 PM

A tricky one indeed

Lot number 1497, it was sold for €14000,- a considerable amount seeing that this weapon was offered for sale for just €8000,- a half year earlier at a different auction

Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 09:58 PM

And once more my heartfelt thanks go to you, Marcus!

Sectioning that weapon among 'miniature weapons' is not tricky but simply wrong as this of course is not a miniature weapon but an absolutely correct and full-size, fine and extremely rare gilt-etched combined wheellock pistol and horseman's hammer, Nuremberg, ca. 1550-55 (Czerny's labeled it as 'late 16th c.')!

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 20th December 2013, 04:51 PM

Hi Marcus,

Here is a postscript to my comment on that haquebut barrel:

I just noticed that a former fire shield is most probably missing from the pan as well. The left hole must have been meant for it, and it must have been riveted where I marked the spot in red. The hole to the right of the pan trough was for the riveted pivot of the missing, formerly swiveling pan cover.

Best,
Michael

19th December 2013, 07:35 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, As you do know Czerny's latest catalog so well, could you please tell me the lot no. of the wheellock combination weapon (a sword, a mace or an axe?) marked red on their cover scan attached? I could not find it in any of their sections but it must be there somewhere ... Thanks again in advance for your assistance, Michael Attached Images

19th December 2013, 09:58 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	And once more my heartfelt thanks go to you, Marcus! Sectioning that weapon among 'miniature weapons' is not tricky but simply wrong as this of course is not a miniature weapon but an absolutely correct and full-size, fine and extremely rare gilt-etched combined wheellock pistol and horseman's hammer, Nuremberg, ca. 1550-55 (Czerny's labeled it as 'late 16th c.')! Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 20th December 2013 at 11:30 AM.

20th December 2013, 04:51 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, Here is a postscript to my comment on that haquebut barrel: I just noticed that a former fire shield is most probably missing from the pan as well. The left hole must have been meant for it, and it must have been riveted where I marked the spot in red. The hole to the right of the pan trough was for the riveted pivot of the missing, formerly swiveling pan cover. Best, Michael Attached Images

19th December 2013, 04:03 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Thanks, Marcus, The classification list of Czerny's is a catastrophe: the matchlock petronel is not listed either among 'long guns' or 'military firearms'! Thus I could not find it without knowing its lot no. Could you please post the description and measurements of that haquebut barrel? Their catalog no. 40 is no longer online. Best, Michael

19th December 2013, 04:11 PM	#2
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Hi Michael, All the Italian auction houses i know are a mess But it was a specccial sale, so it was listed in a other categorie i think. There is not uch to go on, but this is all __________________________ provenance: Germany dating: 15th Century description: Heavy, smooth, round barrel with square nozzle, a strong hook at the front, breech with pan and sight. note condition: good dimensions: length 123.5 cm. _________________________

19th December 2013, 05:05 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Thanks a lot, Marcus, For the information! Best, m

19th December 2013, 08:04 PM	#5
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	A tricky one indeed Lot number 1497, it was sold for €14000,- a considerable amount seeing that this weapon was offered for sale for just €8000,- a half year earlier at a different auction