German hackbut barrel

Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 03:42 PM

What exactly was the date and lot numbers of that haquebut and the matchlock petronel auction at Czerny's?
I could not find either of these in their catalogs.

m

Marcus den toom · 19th December 2013, 03:45 PM

auction 43, lot number 1400
sold at sunday 17th of november

and the hackbut was auction 40 lot 930.
Maybe i will own it, probably not

Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 04:03 PM

Thanks, Marcus,

The classification list of Czerny's is a catastrophe: the matchlock petronel is not listed either among 'long guns' or 'military firearms'! Thus I could not find it without knowing its lot no.

Could you please post the description and measurements of that haquebut barrel? Their catalog no. 40 is no longer online.

Best,
Michael

Marcus den toom · 19th December 2013, 04:11 PM

Hi Michael,

All the Italian auction houses i know are a mess

But it was a specccial sale, so it was listed in a other categorie i think.
There is not uch to go on, but this is all

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provenance: Germany
dating: 15th Century

description: Heavy, smooth, round barrel with square nozzle, a strong hook at the front, breech with pan and sight.

note

condition: good
dimensions: length 123.5 cm.
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Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 05:05 PM

Thanks a lot, Marcus,

For the information!

Best,
m

Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 07:35 PM

Hi Marcus,

As you do know Czerny's latest catalog so well, could you please tell me the lot no. of the wheellock combination weapon (a sword, a mace or an axe?) marked red on their cover scan attached?

I could not find it in any of their sections but it must be there somewhere ...

Thanks again in advance for your assistance,
Michael

Marcus den toom · 19th December 2013, 08:04 PM

A tricky one indeed

Lot number 1497, it was sold for €14000,- a considerable amount seeing that this weapon was offered for sale for just €8000,- a half year earlier at a different auction

19th December 2013, 07:35 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, As you do know Czerny's latest catalog so well, could you please tell me the lot no. of the wheellock combination weapon (a sword, a mace or an axe?) marked red on their cover scan attached? I could not find it in any of their sections but it must be there somewhere ... Thanks again in advance for your assistance, Michael Attached Images

19th December 2013, 03:42 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	What exactly was the date and lot numbers of that haquebut and the matchlock petronel auction at Czerny's? I could not find either of these in their catalogs. m

19th December 2013, 03:45 PM	#2
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	auction 43, lot number 1400 sold at sunday 17th of november and the hackbut was auction 40 lot 930. Maybe i will own it, probably not

19th December 2013, 04:03 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Thanks, Marcus, The classification list of Czerny's is a catastrophe: the matchlock petronel is not listed either among 'long guns' or 'military firearms'! Thus I could not find it without knowing its lot no. Could you please post the description and measurements of that haquebut barrel? Their catalog no. 40 is no longer online. Best, Michael

19th December 2013, 04:11 PM	#4
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Hi Michael, All the Italian auction houses i know are a mess But it was a specccial sale, so it was listed in a other categorie i think. There is not uch to go on, but this is all __________________________ provenance: Germany dating: 15th Century description: Heavy, smooth, round barrel with square nozzle, a strong hook at the front, breech with pan and sight. note condition: good dimensions: length 123.5 cm. _________________________

19th December 2013, 05:05 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Thanks a lot, Marcus, For the information! Best, m

19th December 2013, 08:04 PM	#7
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	A tricky one indeed Lot number 1497, it was sold for €14000,- a considerable amount seeing that this weapon was offered for sale for just €8000,- a half year earlier at a different auction