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5th December 2013, 06:08 PM
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The item i was talking about in a other thread, my own wheel lock breech loading chamber with pan and pancover.
Also the rifle it belonged to, alas i didn't have 40K in my pocket at the time to buy it  The decoration is the same.   
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5th December 2013, 06:27 PM
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Would you please care to give all the exact bibliographic details concerning the book you scanned from? (author, exact title, year of publication, ISBN ...).
Thanks. Btw, the author's dating of the gun ('2nd half 16th c.') is 100 years out of reality; the piece was made in about 1665-80, which means 2nd half 17th c.. Who is this guy anyway juggling with 100 years as if they were rubber balls?  Best, m |
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5th December 2013, 07:23 PM
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The book is actually a auction cattalogue
Czerny's, october 24th&25th 2009 page 566-567 My thoughts exactly, but sadly most auction houses don't have a "Michael" on there payroll 
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5th December 2013, 09:34 PM
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Thanks a lot, Marcus, for that superb compliment!
   Reality though is as sad as it is true: sales people do not want mercilessly honest, dedicated and competent 'cranks' like me. What they want, and pay for, are their own spectacular descriptions that hopefully (in their view) just do one thing: sell ... For more than 30 years I have commented on pieces from my range of competence to all the big international auction houses as soon as their latest catalogs have been out. The only ones to ever thank me and include my comments in discussions with possible buyers during visiting hours are - the three London houses Bonhams, Christie's and Tom De Mar (in alphabetical order). So they, in my personal private view, are the most honest ones. They at least try ... Best, Michael |
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18th December 2013, 09:36 AM
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Did Fisscher never do anything with your information? I would be suprised, last time i was in Luzern and visited their auktion they seemed very honest.
My experience with auction is indeed their exstesive ways of convincing buyers of special features on their items. Most of the time you also see that they just copy the text from the previous auction house where the item was sold through. I always try to track any major purchases down to previous auctions, this will tell you a lot about the different views and time that has passed between 2 sales. I found this picture on the web, more hackbut barrels and handgonnes but i think it will do nicely in this thread. These items are in the Belgium national firearms museum in Brussel/Bruxelles. 
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18th December 2013, 10:28 AM
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Hi Marcus,
Thank you for the nice image from the Brussels Koninklijk Leger Museum. Are there any other pictures showing such beautiful stuff where you found it? Could you link that site here, please? I did some 'photoshoping' to the tiller guns (Stangenbüchsen) of ca. 1430-50, after they had evolved wall hooks.. Best, Michael |
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18th December 2013, 11:26 AM
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