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A. G. Maisey · 21st November 2013, 02:02 AM

John, I did contribute a comment to the evapo thread but I did not start it, and I know nothing about evaporust.

My favourite for cleaning used to be pure pineapple juice, I used that for over 40 years, but I cannot buy it anymore, so these days I use vinegar, and I think citric acid also has a future. In Jawa we use coconut water or lime juice.

In fact, any mild acid will do the job --- tomato juice,coca-cola, anything, but it helps if you know the stuff doesn't keep on working, that way you can leave it for a day instead of watching it. Household vinegar is safe.

NB:- my mention of hydrochloric acid was only for spotting, not ever for a soak, and when you spot with the stuff you stay right there and watch it.

jwkiernan · 21st November 2013, 02:29 AM

NB:- my mention of hydrochloric acid was only for spotting, not ever for a soak, and when you spot with the stuff you stay right there and watch it.[/QUOTE]

Alan, I was on the same track as you when you were talking about using acid on the rust...it would be plain bad to put that stuff anywhere but where you'd want it to work.

I have used vinegar to re-etch Moro blades, but never used it as a cleaner as well...I will also have to see if I can find some unsweetened pineapple juice here as well...again, thanks for all your inputs and suggestions...I am grateful.

Respectfully,

John

A. G. Maisey · 21st November 2013, 03:11 AM

John, I used to use real pineapple juice:- fresh pineapples from Queensland taken from the fields and immediately run through a press, then canned.

It was excellent for cleaning rust, and even better for drinking.

I can still buy pineapple juice but its made from imported concentrate and it is totally undrinkable and no good at all for cleaning keris.

I'm betting that the only pineapple juice you will be able to find is reconstituted rubbish from Brazil or somewhere. Don't waste your time or your money.

jwkiernan · 21st November 2013, 04:56 PM

Thanks Alan...vinegar and WD 40 it is!

When you mentioned "wrapping the blade in plastic" I am guessing a seran-wrap/cling wrap type of thing, and if so, can it still be stored in the sheath this way? Again, thank you for all your help with this...as if I didn't see it before, learning and understanding the weapons we preserve and appreciate is a lifelong pursuit...one I think most all of us happily accept!

all my best,

John

21st November 2013, 02:02 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,134	John, I did contribute a comment to the evapo thread but I did not start it, and I know nothing about evaporust. My favourite for cleaning used to be pure pineapple juice, I used that for over 40 years, but I cannot buy it anymore, so these days I use vinegar, and I think citric acid also has a future. In Jawa we use coconut water or lime juice. In fact, any mild acid will do the job --- tomato juice,coca-cola, anything, but it helps if you know the stuff doesn't keep on working, that way you can leave it for a day instead of watching it. Household vinegar is safe. NB:- my mention of hydrochloric acid was only for spotting, not ever for a soak, and when you spot with the stuff you stay right there and watch it.

21st November 2013, 02:29 AM	#2
jwkiernan Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37	NB:- my mention of hydrochloric acid was only for spotting, not ever for a soak, and when you spot with the stuff you stay right there and watch it.[/QUOTE] Alan, I was on the same track as you when you were talking about using acid on the rust...it would be plain bad to put that stuff anywhere but where you'd want it to work. I have used vinegar to re-etch Moro blades, but never used it as a cleaner as well...I will also have to see if I can find some unsweetened pineapple juice here as well...again, thanks for all your inputs and suggestions...I am grateful. Respectfully, John

21st November 2013, 03:11 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,134	John, I used to use real pineapple juice:- fresh pineapples from Queensland taken from the fields and immediately run through a press, then canned. It was excellent for cleaning rust, and even better for drinking. I can still buy pineapple juice but its made from imported concentrate and it is totally undrinkable and no good at all for cleaning keris. I'm betting that the only pineapple juice you will be able to find is reconstituted rubbish from Brazil or somewhere. Don't waste your time or your money.

21st November 2013, 04:56 PM	#4
jwkiernan Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37	Thanks Alan...vinegar and WD 40 it is! When you mentioned "wrapping the blade in plastic" I am guessing a seran-wrap/cling wrap type of thing, and if so, can it still be stored in the sheath this way? Again, thank you for all your help with this...as if I didn't see it before, learning and understanding the weapons we preserve and appreciate is a lifelong pursuit...one I think most all of us happily accept! all my best, John