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31st August 2013, 05:32 PM
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Salaams all Note to Forum; The previous post underlines the now known route of such blades; many originally German/European sold to Ethiopia thence to Yemen(Sanaa) and on to Salalah and Mutrah Souks which have appeared spuriously on Omani long hilts and sold to visitors/tourists as Omani swords. It is difficult to know where to slot this mixed up weapon since it is not of the family Omani Battle Sword nor is it an Omani Dancing Sword (The Straight Sayf).
It is however placed here for reference and carries the warning that an Omani long hilted straight sword with a blade that is not flexible must immediately be looked at as a potential fake and likely to be mismatched from a Red Sea variant. Workshop in Muttrah have been identified as having created probably thousands of such mix ups since 1970. Many workshops are defunct but some remain. None of these swords appear to be absorbed into the Omani local market because; "the dancing sword must be a certain style and able to bend often almost double since that is the criteria for the 1744 flexible dancing style continuing to be made locally today in Ras al Khaimah and Salalah and pre 1970 by wandering gypsy groups all over Oman". I have included this post on Omani Dancing Swords... so that library is correctly served. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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28th September 2013, 04:24 PM
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Salaams all ~Note to Library
An interesting parallel on this Mahdist Dagger? Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. 
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28th September 2013, 04:36 PM
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28th September 2013, 05:02 PM
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Rather supports my theory of the recent hilts shown at # 1. I recall the pamphlet description on the dagger as being of 1882 vintage in line with the start of the Madhist Wars, however, a later date ... indeed modern is in keeping with the arguement of these blades being played with in backstreet workshops probably in Yemen ... Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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28th September 2013, 07:21 PM
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29th September 2013, 03:42 PM
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Salaams Iain, Personally I think the closer link to style is the sword in the military museum rather... see #11at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ilitary+museum though I still think these hilts shown above are cheap knock ups done in Sanaa after the original hilts of Rhino were removed for Jambia hilts. The dagger is added for interest... Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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11th November 2013, 06:41 AM
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Salaam! Dear Ibrahim,
The hilt and the grooving style of these swords reveal their Arab origin. Do you have any idea which century do they date? BTW, I'm new to the forum. My specialization is in Arab and non-Arab swords dating from 550 to 1300 CE. I must admit that -after reading some of your discussion threads- that you're quite informant in Omani, other Arab, North African, and East African swords. Again, have you any idea which century do these swords return to? Thanks a lot in advance. |
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