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			Hi Teodor, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	It is not from Crete, its from Aivali (Kydonies) in Asia Minor coast, in Turkey. Please make a better photo of the last 2 words in the second row.  | 
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			Ups  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  !I think Eftihis is right, sorry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayvalık http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kydonia Anyway, nice knife.  | 
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			Gentlemen, 
		
		
		
			Thank you very much for the quick responses. Here is hopefully a better photo of the poem. Teodor  | 
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			Thanks for the photo. Translation remains the same!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Thank you very much Eftihis. Why are these inscriptions on Greek knives so elegiac? Are they references to the Ottoman yoke or simply love related?  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Hi Teodor, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Have a look at this past thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=kydonia  | 
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			they are still making these inscribed knives in chania, crete. an elderly knife maker, Apostolis Pachtikos, made these: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	not mine. ![]() ![]() mine. ![]() i gather he is actually a turk who immigrated to crete way back when & has been making knives there for 60+ years. i hope he still is. last i heard there were only 7 other makers left. edited: apparently the other 7 have died. ![]() apostolis signs his knives as 'armenis' as when he arrived from turkey, they mistakingly referred to him as the armenian  
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