Two hands sword

[valkenburg]

Originally Posted by carlos

Thank you very much !
Yes, this example is very similar, Reading this I´m very happy,I paid 185 euros for the sword.
Thanks again

carlos

Only 185 euro?? what a bargain! Lucky you. 870 was the hammer price, and then 23% + VAT was added as well (so in the end it was about 1100 euro). But I think your sword is more recent than this one.

[laEspadaAncha]

Hi Carlos,

Is the sword now in your possession? Can you post close-up photos of the (top of) the pommel? How is that highly-stylized pommel secured to the rest of the hilt?

Even if it a late Victorian wall hanger, somebody should still call the police, because if you only paid 185 euros, IMO you stole it.

Cheers,
Chris

[fernando]

Well, different perspectives;depending on whether or not you enjoy gathering wall hangers ... with all due respect

[laEspadaAncha]

Originally Posted by fernando

Well, different perspectives;depending on whether or not you enjoy gathering wall hangers ... with all due respect

I know... What I would give to come across a period original in a local sale - the only one I've held in hand was a Victorian creation as well, and I gave it a happy albeit temporary home on my wall until it was traded for something more appealing. What's the old saying? "If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with?"

Trust me though - the day the real deal walks into my shop, it's not walking out.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

... What's the old saying? "If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with?" ..

Same as: he who doesn't have a dog, hunts with a cat
I din't think i could ever afford to acquire the real thing ... when it appears ... so i pass

[valkenburg]

Does any of you know how these Victorian copies were made? were the hand forged like they did in the 16th century? or were they made out sheet metal with machinery? they already had some pretty sophisticated metal-work machines in the Victorian era.

[laEspadaAncha]

Originally Posted by valkenburg

Does any of you know how these Victorian copies were made? were the hand forged like they did in the 16th century? or were they made out sheet metal with machinery? they already had some pretty sophisticated metal-work machines in the Victorian era.

My only experience was with a blade that was hand forged (and the waves were forged in the blade), at it had a rectangular (full length) to rat tail (last 1 1/2-2 inches) tang, onto which the pilow pommel screwed (though receessed or sleeved I cannot recall), securing the one-piece hardwood grip and the crossguard, both which had to be fitted correctly (i.e., the grip would only seat into the guard correctly one way). Each of the four parts were individually numbered with a matching, two-strike, two digit stamp in a serif font.

I tried to find some pics, but this was years ago... If I happen across them on a archived drive, I'll post them.

Cheers,
Chris

[Jim McDougall]

If its an early , i.e. Victorian or early 20th example used as noted in pageants, theatrical or otherwise, these are still worthy antiquities in thier own right. The Victorian penchant for reproduced classical arms and armour has placed many items as desirable collectibles, especially the Ernst Schmitt products from Munich, 19th c.
Many of these were displayed in the Higgins museum for many years along with authentic pieces.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

... these are still worthy antiquities in thier own right...

Yes, Jim !
An antiquity; nevertheless a copy ... of something in use three centuries before .
I repeat, with the due respect for Carlos ... and also for genuine two handed swords (called montantes over here) .