Looking for a rapier identical to this one.

Dmitry · 9th July 2013, 06:49 PM

Fair enough. Just wanted to know your m.o.

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Originally Posted by kronckew

what is a 'rapier'? this seems to be a broad made-up term for a broad class of long skinny bladed thrusting weapons with fanciful elaborate (or not so elaborate) guards, most of which were never called or considered 'rapiers' by their owners.

Well, a rapier in my interpretation is a thrusting sword with a straight blade of at least 90 cm., a hilt that offers more protection for a palm than a simple guard, and with a ricasso. I'm sure others' versions will vary.

kronckew · 9th July 2013, 07:11 PM

good. mine seems to fit the definition then. thanks.

as i don't want the current off topic discussion to detract from your original post, i've asked fernando via PM to move the discussion to a separate thread.

regards,

wayne

p.s. - i wound a bit of flat maroon 'shoelace' around the square section ricasso between the 1st ring guard and the crossbar to make it a bit more comfortable. probably should have used leather but don't have the leather. i can however 'macrame'.

i started learning the foil on an italian grip foil, so i'm used to putting my fingers over the crossbar and around the ricasso. i carried that over to the epee when in university where i was our epee team captain. it was impossible at that time to find a competition epee (electric) with an italian grip however. i probably could have tracked one down if i had the money to do it, but i was not a wealthy student.

i also have a pair of brown leather fencing gloves to match the harness that need a bit of breaking in.

fernando · 9th July 2013, 07:23 PM

I am sorry Wayne

You might have not noticed that presently i am not acting as a a moderator.
On the other hand, i don't think the ongoing conversation has lost its flavor and there are no strong reasons to split the thread.
We are all sportsmen here and i am sure Dmitry agrees with this.
Ah, by the way: none of my five cats has a pedigree ... but they are all cats alright

kronckew · 9th July 2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

I am sorry Wayne

You might have not noticed that presently i am not acting as a a moderator.
On the other hand, i don't think the ongoing conversation has lost its flavor and there are no strong reasons to split the thread.
We are all sportsmen here and i am sure Dmitry agrees with this.
Ah, by the way: none of my five cats has a pedigree ... but they are all cats alright

OK. hadn't noticed you'd stepped down. i'll babel on then.

my dogs were not AKC registered greyhounds either (Millie was an NGC registered racer and quite a good one, tho not a top champion - she did win 2/3 of her races tho & made her racing owners a fortune) the akc people tend to look down on ngc people and their dogs for not conforming to their breed standard & did not allow ngc dogs to be akc registered until recently, when an ngc dog was allowed grudgingly in, and went on to win best in breed! ngc dogs tend to be smaller and much more muscular.

my male, Blue, i entered in a local dog show. the owner of three AKC greyhounds also entered in the show was quite condescending when i walked blue by him.

result:

Blue won the blue ribbon for best dog. the AKC ones didn't get anything.
(he did have a tail, it's wagged behind him on his left side

)

as they've passed over, millie went this easter, i'm looking for a replacement, have seen a nice abandoned spanish galgo on a spanish rescue site i might sponsor for a trip to sunny england. he's not registered either, but also a greyhound.

a gratuitous Millie photo:

Dmitry · 9th July 2013, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

p.s. - i wound a bit of flat maroon 'shoelace' around the square section ricasso between the 1st ring guard and the crossbar to make it a bit more comfortable. probably should have used leather but don't have the leather. i can however 'macrame'.

You can get an old leather glove, cut off one of the fingers, and stitch it over the back of the ricasso. If I was playing with it, I'd also get some braided wire and put it in the recesses on the grip, drill small holes where they terminate, and secure the ends with tooth-picks. The hilt can be cold-blued on the cheap. That should go over well with the ladies.

kronckew · 9th July 2013, 08:46 PM

sounds good. it'll keep me busy and out of trouble anyway!

Jim McDougall · 11th July 2013, 06:30 PM

I dont have much to add, but just wanted to say this is an outstanding example of perfectly gentlemanly discussion, which even though has wandered a little from the topic, is informative and comfortable reading.
Even though the extremely nicely made rapier Wayne presented is clearly a modern reproduction, it was shown in good faith and I like the way no defensiveness developed by any parties in responses.

I admit I have often been dismayed and frustrated many times over such wanderings on threads as I have always been intent on historical focus, but you guys remind me that we are just guys talking on common interests here. Actually thats kinda nice

and we still learn a lot together, even if a wander or ramble here and there happens,.

Thanks guys,
Jim

kronckew · 11th July 2013, 09:16 PM

thanks jim - and dimitry.
i can always use more help with the ladies...

9th July 2013, 07:11 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,227	good. mine seems to fit the definition then. thanks. as i don't want the current off topic discussion to detract from your original post, i've asked fernando via PM to move the discussion to a separate thread. regards, wayne p.s. - i wound a bit of flat maroon 'shoelace' around the square section ricasso between the 1st ring guard and the crossbar to make it a bit more comfortable. probably should have used leather but don't have the leather. i can however 'macrame'. i started learning the foil on an italian grip foil, so i'm used to putting my fingers over the crossbar and around the ricasso. i carried that over to the epee when in university where i was our epee team captain. it was impossible at that time to find a competition epee (electric) with an italian grip however. i probably could have tracked one down if i had the money to do it, but i was not a wealthy student. i also have a pair of brown leather fencing gloves to match the harness that need a bit of breaking in. Last edited by kronckew; 9th July 2013 at 07:23 PM.

9th July 2013, 07:23 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I am sorry Wayne You might have not noticed that presently i am not acting as a a moderator. On the other hand, i don't think the ongoing conversation has lost its flavor and there are no strong reasons to split the thread. We are all sportsmen here and i am sure Dmitry agrees with this. Ah, by the way: none of my five cats has a pedigree ... but they are all cats alright

9th July 2013, 08:46 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,227	sounds good. it'll keep me busy and out of trouble anyway!

11th July 2013, 06:30 PM	#7
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,295	I dont have much to add, but just wanted to say this is an outstanding example of perfectly gentlemanly discussion, which even though has wandered a little from the topic, is informative and comfortable reading. Even though the extremely nicely made rapier Wayne presented is clearly a modern reproduction, it was shown in good faith and I like the way no defensiveness developed by any parties in responses. I admit I have often been dismayed and frustrated many times over such wanderings on threads as I have always been intent on historical focus, but you guys remind me that we are just guys talking on common interests here. Actually thats kinda nice and we still learn a lot together, even if a wander or ramble here and there happens,. Thanks guys, Jim

11th July 2013, 09:16 PM	#8
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,227	thanks jim - and dimitry. i can always use more help with the ladies...