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Old 23rd May 2013, 08:42 AM   #1
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Hey Archer,

Cool group, I like the curvey ones.

I noticed (as probably alot did too) that the Indians way of sharpening is abit unforgiving on the blade.. I'd guess that this sword looked alot different when it was made.

Give it an etch, I'd guess its potentially wootz.
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Old 24th May 2013, 10:10 PM   #2
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Here is one of my tulwars, the blade changed shape on this one too due to sharpening... Its wootz.
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Old 25th May 2013, 12:45 AM   #3
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Hi Lotfy, Nice high contrast wootz on the blade. I believe that the punch marks are from Bikaner Armory. Nice catch was it an Arabian from Ardha? Steve
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Old 25th May 2013, 01:01 AM   #4
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Hey Steve,

Thank you. No this one was not in Arabia.

When I said that there was Indian swords and blades used by Arabs, I ment real time use rather than ardha dance. This I built on 2 family heirlooms, 2 friends own their great grandfather's swords and both are Indian. One has the all steel shamshir like hilt (will try to find similar photos) and the other had hilt with a tiger head. They were used in a time that the swords were used for combat.. The most interesting part is that they werent rehilted.

For the ardha dance, a badawi hilt or Persian style would be far more comfortable.
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Old 25th May 2013, 06:25 PM   #5
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Tulwars with down-turning handles in my admittedly limited experience always come from the South. This one also has Deccani motive: little balls at the ends of quillons.

Northern handles are as a rule straight.
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Old 25th May 2013, 06:45 PM   #6
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Good note on the canted pommel being a southern characteristic, if you consider a ayda katti from the Coorgs on the western side. It seems this is a distinctive feature on these.
I would note that the pierced dots in the langet are a feature often seen on Afghan tulwars and from the northern regions, and of course the elongated pommel stem seems aligned with the khanda/firangi group of hilts. There is a profound connection between the Deccan and the Afghan regions along with the obvious context with those routes, so specific regional attribution would be pretty tough.
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Old 25th May 2013, 06:54 PM   #7
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I think that it's time for a CLASSIC thread on tulwars.....
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