Two Good Moro Shields

kino · 15th May 2013, 03:51 PM

Double congrats on 2 great shields.
I'm guessing that, less than likely your arm or your hand would be able to slip thru the holes.

Spunjer · 15th May 2013, 05:02 PM

Yikes! and he scores!!! two rare pieces you got there, my friend. in regards to the colloquial terms, yes, Taming is right (in Tausug, but i'm not sure if it's the same in Maguindanao and Maranao tongue
regarding the notch in the center:
here's an example with a glass bottle bottom (provenanced 1899 and before). congrats, bro!

Maurice · 15th May 2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

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regarding the notch in the center:
here's an example with a glass bottle bottom (provenanced 1899 and before).

Wow that's also a beauty Ron. Is it yours?

I've also a picture of a moro shield which was offered to the Tropenmuseum in Amsterdam in 2011. I don't know if it's in their collection now though.
It seems to have a metal centre ring.

Spunjer · 15th May 2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

Wow that's also a beauty Ron. Is it yours?

Hello maurice,
No. this particular shield belongs to the collection of Webb Hayes. i was really surprise when i saw the bottle bottom. come to think of it tho, there's a possibility that it was added by a member of his troops on its way here. a month is a long time out in the open ocean, lol.
something we'll never know...

kino · 15th May 2013, 06:59 PM

Maurice, nice shield, the design on the shield could be be interpreted as a fleur de lis......or a bird in flight. Did it belong to the Troppenmuseum once?

Maurice · 15th May 2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kino

Maurice, nice shield, the design on the shield could be be interpreted as a fleur de lis......or a bird in flight. Did it belong to the Troppenmuseum once?

Hi Albert.
All I know is that it was offered to the Tropenmuseum in the year 2011.
They didn't know from what area the shield was originally and they asked for that.
I never heard if they added it afterwards in their collection or if they let it go eventually....(though as a firm collector I am, I told them besides it is a moro shield that I would be interested if they didn't want it)

Unfortunately no reaction lateron...

Maurice

CharlesS · 15th May 2013, 07:11 PM

Spunjer....that's a nice and interesting shield. Is that one tinted with an earth tone yellow, or is that color just patinated wood carving?

Great other examples to observe...thanks for adding to the thread guys!!!

Spunjer · 15th May 2013, 07:34 PM

i'm not sure if it was patina or yellow pigment, charles. it's been awhile since i took these pics. i do remember the shield itself was ultralight, almost like balsa wood..

15th May 2013, 05:02 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Yikes! and he scores!!! two rare pieces you got there, my friend. in regards to the colloquial terms, yes, Taming is right (in Tausug, but i'm not sure if it's the same in Maguindanao and Maranao tongue regarding the notch in the center: here's an example with a glass bottle bottom (provenanced 1899 and before). congrats, bro! Attached Images

15th May 2013, 03:51 PM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	Double congrats on 2 great shields. I'm guessing that, less than likely your arm or your hand would be able to slip thru the holes.

15th May 2013, 06:59 PM	#5
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	Maurice, nice shield, the design on the shield could be be interpreted as a fleur de lis......or a bird in flight. Did it belong to the Troppenmuseum once?

15th May 2013, 07:11 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Spunjer....that's a nice and interesting shield. Is that one tinted with an earth tone yellow, or is that color just patinated wood carving? Great other examples to observe...thanks for adding to the thread guys!!!

15th May 2013, 07:34 PM	#8
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	i'm not sure if it was patina or yellow pigment, charles. it's been awhile since i took these pics. i do remember the shield itself was ultralight, almost like balsa wood..