THai?!?!?! SWORD?

peter jensen · 10th October 2005, 01:03 PM

i know what you mean , the sword is welded/forged, its not poor made however , and there are some markings on the blade(grooves from shaping/sharpening) and some small dents that look like from another sword, i can see JUST BARLEY how they tempered on the spine by slight indentations, and it had a good bit of rust that i cleaned off like a fool , and by the color of stain i think it could be blood too , not sure though...,also i thought it could be silver, but that was a big could be .. i have alot of silver and it seems closest to silver, it isnt alumin , and it isnt pewter.. and from the looks of where it came from i dont really know what metal they have access to. IVE TRYED LOOKING ON EBAY! i couldnt find ANYTHING.
oh and for the pic below , you can see the grooves if you look hard, sorry i couldnt get some better pics of it on here, good news is next week im going hunting for more swords, ill try and pic up a better digi cam

peter jensen · 10th October 2005, 01:08 PM

handle isnt soft....well im not metal expert though, and the handle is oval a perfect fit to the hand i might say, im not sure what the blades cross section IS . sorry im not to good with sword term. and ive had a couple peopple tell me it looks like a bolo too. like i said , ive only seen the ahka pommel and the entire (blade and handle) like that on afghan(?) executions sword .. so im not too sure where to go from here

RhysMichael · 11th October 2005, 02:07 PM

put " Thai sword naga " in the search or just "thai sword" and you will find a similar naga on a wooden handle on the sword. The same dealer has one of the metal handled tourist dha that does not have the naga head. I did see a carved ivory naga similar to this on a sword the other day. I will try to find where I saw it.

Mark · 11th October 2005, 05:09 PM

The only thing I have to add to JT's and Andrew's comments is that the handle might be a tin alloy (like pewter). It is called "Bakka" tine, or "Baga" tin, or something like that. It is a common material for pots, dishes, etc. in SEA, and is pretty hard.

peter jensen · 13th October 2005, 11:55 AM

yeah ive seen the similar pommel too, on those ebay swords. but this sword is different, in the pommel with the mouth being more representitive of idol statues i remember seeing somewhere (probably on tv) , and the complete handle design and blade are also not like those wooden ebay swords. this sword didnt come with its original sheath either, so i couldnt tell you about that. there are no markings indicating the maker(no script*). i want to know where this influence came from .. the pommel and blade combonation. if its another cheap ripoff or if is kosher. its one of the nicer made swords i have(i have 2 cheap ripoffs) and this sword takes some damage... you could definatley chop down some trees with it and it wouldnt break. and i got it from a nazi sword guy, he told me he got his swords overseas, but i didnt ask about this one in particular, seeing as how it was the only one without a swastika on the handle or blade- and i thought he wouldnt know too much about it. i dont think he particularly decided to purchase off ebay. and the stain of rust is deep. very very deep. i would say about 1/20'' deep. im thinking its about 50 or 60 years old.. (i re rusted it on a single spot for 2 weeks and the rust didnt even appear on the blade) so it must have been laying on a wet ground for while unatended to. well i dont know what else to say bout it .. like i said , if you guys know anything else just lemme know ... oh the blade isnt very magnetic, and the handle isnt at all .

10th October 2005, 01:03 PM	#1
peter jensen Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5	Thai i know what you mean , the sword is welded/forged, its not poor made however , and there are some markings on the blade(grooves from shaping/sharpening) and some small dents that look like from another sword, i can see JUST BARLEY how they tempered on the spine by slight indentations, and it had a good bit of rust that i cleaned off like a fool , and by the color of stain i think it could be blood too , not sure though...,also i thought it could be silver, but that was a big could be .. i have alot of silver and it seems closest to silver, it isnt alumin , and it isnt pewter.. and from the looks of where it came from i dont really know what metal they have access to. IVE TRYED LOOKING ON EBAY! i couldnt find ANYTHING. oh and for the pic below , you can see the grooves if you look hard, sorry i couldnt get some better pics of it on here, good news is next week im going hunting for more swords, ill try and pic up a better digi cam Attached Images

10th October 2005, 01:08 PM	#2
peter jensen Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5	oh andrew handle isnt soft....well im not metal expert though, and the handle is oval a perfect fit to the hand i might say, im not sure what the blades cross section IS . sorry im not to good with sword term. and ive had a couple peopple tell me it looks like a bolo too. like i said , ive only seen the ahka pommel and the entire (blade and handle) like that on afghan(?) executions sword .. so im not too sure where to go from here

11th October 2005, 02:07 PM	#3
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	put " Thai sword naga " in the search or just "thai sword" and you will find a similar naga on a wooden handle on the sword. The same dealer has one of the metal handled tourist dha that does not have the naga head. I did see a carved ivory naga similar to this on a sword the other day. I will try to find where I saw it.

11th October 2005, 05:09 PM	#4
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	The only thing I have to add to JT's and Andrew's comments is that the handle might be a tin alloy (like pewter). It is called "Bakka" tine, or "Baga" tin, or something like that. It is a common material for pots, dishes, etc. in SEA, and is pretty hard.

13th October 2005, 11:55 AM	#5
peter jensen Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5	yeah ive seen the similar pommel too, on those ebay swords. but this sword is different, in the pommel with the mouth being more representitive of idol statues i remember seeing somewhere (probably on tv) , and the complete handle design and blade are also not like those wooden ebay swords. this sword didnt come with its original sheath either, so i couldnt tell you about that. there are no markings indicating the maker(no script*). i want to know where this influence came from .. the pommel and blade combonation. if its another cheap ripoff or if is kosher. its one of the nicer made swords i have(i have 2 cheap ripoffs) and this sword takes some damage... you could definatley chop down some trees with it and it wouldnt break. and i got it from a nazi sword guy, he told me he got his swords overseas, but i didnt ask about this one in particular, seeing as how it was the only one without a swastika on the handle or blade- and i thought he wouldnt know too much about it. i dont think he particularly decided to purchase off ebay. and the stain of rust is deep. very very deep. i would say about 1/20'' deep. im thinking its about 50 or 60 years old.. (i re rusted it on a single spot for 2 weeks and the rust didnt even appear on the blade) so it must have been laying on a wet ground for while unatended to. well i dont know what else to say bout it .. like i said , if you guys know anything else just lemme know ... oh the blade isnt very magnetic, and the handle isnt at all .