Miquelet gun

fernando · 5th April 2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K

Hello:

I will not add anything to the biography of BIS and SOLER, treated by Lavin, but I will give of MARGUIS (O Margis)

MARGIS ... is this the same as MONTARGIS ?

Fernando K · 5th April 2013, 01:18 PM

Hello

Sorry, typing is a fake. Corresponds MONTARGUIS (or MONTARGIS)

Afectusosamente. Fernando K

fernando · 5th April 2013, 01:34 PM

Nicolas Bis is the gunmaker to whom the invention of horse shoe barrels (callos de la herradura) is attributed.
He was known at he time as the Prince of Spanish Gunmakers “Príncipe de los Arcabuceros Españoles”.

shinyblades · 5th April 2013, 06:32 PM

Hello. Yes the trigger guard by soler seems unusual but Lavin states soler was appointed honary gunsmith to carlos 111 in 1776 and chose to care for the personal arms of Carlos 1V in 1797 , he also regained a royal position to fernando V11 caring for the kings arms and repairing guns , I would assume soler either restocked / refurbished the gun or replaced a missing trigger guard or the punzon itself to mark his work on the already old gun by bis . On another note I just received a copy of catalogo de arcabuceria madrilena ( 1687- 1833 ) real armeria de Madrid
Alvaro soler del campo , I cannot read a word but the photos are fantastic , lockplates , frizzens , barrels, stocks , and with 400 pages and 1 1/2" thick it is a real treat , get a copy you will love it , I got mine including postage to Belfast for £30 , unfortunately a lot of the guns stocks are in a very poor stripped down condition apparently due to an over enthusiastic well meaning use of caustic solution on the stocks . Regards all. Shinyblades

fernando · 5th April 2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shinyblades

... I just received a copy of catalogo de arcabuceria madrilena ( 1687- 1833 ) real armeria de Madrid ... I cannot read a word but the photos are fantastic ... it is a real treat , get a copy you will love it ...

Long time i bought a brand new copy; cost me a lot more. Lucky i can understand the texts. Pity is only about gunmakers from Madrid.

shinyblades · 5th April 2013, 07:15 PM

Hello all. I would like to know if anyone has a view on the head carving on the wrist of the Aguirre gun , is this head with teeth showing and spirals beneath the chin represent any cultural figures , has it a link with Spanish conquest ie , inca , Aztec , maya , or purely the stockers imagination ?? Any ideas Shinyblades

kahnjar1 · 6th April 2013, 05:08 AM

It has all been said already. Two truly magnificent guns.
Thanks for sharing.

fernando · 6th April 2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shinyblades

Hello all. I would like to know if anyone has a view on the head carving on the wrist of the Aguirre gun , is this head with teeth showing and spirals beneath the chin represent any cultural figures , has it a link with Spanish conquest ie , inca , Aztec , maya , or purely the stockers imagination ?? Any ideas Shinyblades

Imagination, i would say. Grotesque masks were fashionable in the XVIII century. Just an opinion

5th April 2013, 01:34 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Did you that: Nicolas Bis is the gunmaker to whom the invention of horse shoe barrels (callos de la herradura) is attributed. He was known at he time as the Prince of Spanish Gunmakers “Príncipe de los Arcabuceros Españoles”.

5th April 2013, 06:32 PM	#4
shinyblades Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Belfast Northern ireland Posts: 10	Nicholas bis / Isidro soler Hello. Yes the trigger guard by soler seems unusual but Lavin states soler was appointed honary gunsmith to carlos 111 in 1776 and chose to care for the personal arms of Carlos 1V in 1797 , he also regained a royal position to fernando V11 caring for the kings arms and repairing guns , I would assume soler either restocked / refurbished the gun or replaced a missing trigger guard or the punzon itself to mark his work on the already old gun by bis . On another note I just received a copy of catalogo de arcabuceria madrilena ( 1687- 1833 ) real armeria de Madrid Alvaro soler del campo , I cannot read a word but the photos are fantastic , lockplates , frizzens , barrels, stocks , and with 400 pages and 1 1/2" thick it is a real treat , get a copy you will love it , I got mine including postage to Belfast for £30 , unfortunately a lot of the guns stocks are in a very poor stripped down condition apparently due to an over enthusiastic well meaning use of caustic solution on the stocks . Regards all. Shinyblades Last edited by shinyblades; 5th April 2013 at 07:00 PM. Reason: Missing word

5th April 2013, 07:15 PM	#6
shinyblades Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Belfast Northern ireland Posts: 10	Joseph Aguirre double gun Hello all. I would like to know if anyone has a view on the head carving on the wrist of the Aguirre gun , is this head with teeth showing and spirals beneath the chin represent any cultural figures , has it a link with Spanish conquest ie , inca , Aztec , maya , or purely the stockers imagination ?? Any ideas Shinyblades

5th April 2013, 01:18 PM	#2
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 672	Hello Sorry, typing is a fake. Corresponds MONTARGUIS (or MONTARGIS) Afectusosamente. Fernando K

6th April 2013, 05:08 AM	#7
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,810	It has all been said already. Two truly magnificent guns. Thanks for sharing.