Middle Eastern Knife??

Dom · 22nd February 2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Forgive me Dom, but you seem to be basing you assumption of origin solely on the Arabic inscription (which makes no case for origin

by the way ...
while my translator provides translations for all requests
the ricassos of my two "magdalis" although written in Arabic alphabet
are still not translated

because it is not Arabic language, dialect used must be "Druze"
but in the specific case of this dagger who important to us
this is "an extract from Holy Koran, it is (MUST) in Arabic

actually, I share your point of view;
- the written language is not always a proof of origin, just an index

therefore, it is not the language that influenced me

à +

Dom

David · 22nd February 2013, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

actually, I share your point of view;
- the written language is not always a proof of origin, just an index

therefore, it is not the language that influenced me

Then what was it that did influence you Dom? The only two points you make are about the writing on the ricasso and the Seal of Solomon.? Care to share, rather than dancing around the question while throwing out rude emoticons. Is there some reason you keep sticking your tongue out at everyone with every post?

David R · 22nd February 2013, 11:22 PM

Photo of ricasso of a Wilkinson 1897, "double triangle", Wilkinson always made the point that it was NOT a star of David, and complained that it had become so well known that it was widely copied. An interesting thread about this is on another "sword specific" forum.

Dom · 23rd February 2013, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Care to share, rather than dancing around the question while throwing out rude emoticons. Is there some reason you keep sticking your tongue out at everyone with every post?

received 5/5, you are a modo, I'll stick to your orders
from now, I'm a spectator. Over

Dom

David · 23rd February 2013, 02:35 AM

No orders here Dom, just friendly suggestions.

broadaxe · 23rd February 2013, 06:55 PM

I believe it is Afghan made dagger for the British/European market. Typical shape and technique.

David R · 23rd February 2013, 07:48 PM

Looking at it again I think it is an "assembleage", blade ground down from an Indian copy of a Wilkinson, and the scabbard furniture, with its brass throat locket and steel chape, from out of the bit box, hilt pieces also from the box. With the standard Islamic invocation on the ricasso I think it aimed at the local market rather than the Western.
A nice item all the same, probably made within the last 30 years or so.

22nd February 2013, 11:22 PM	#3
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,135	Photo of ricasso of a Wilkinson 1897, "double triangle", Wilkinson always made the point that it was NOT a star of David, and complained that it had become so well known that it was widely copied. An interesting thread about this is on another "sword specific" forum. Attached Images

23rd February 2013, 02:35 AM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	No orders here Dom, just friendly suggestions.

23rd February 2013, 06:55 PM	#6
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334	I believe it is Afghan made dagger for the British/European market. Typical shape and technique.

23rd February 2013, 07:48 PM	#7
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,135	Looking at it again I think it is an "assembleage", blade ground down from an Indian copy of a Wilkinson, and the scabbard furniture, with its brass throat locket and steel chape, from out of the bit box, hilt pieces also from the box. With the standard Islamic invocation on the ricasso I think it aimed at the local market rather than the Western. A nice item all the same, probably made within the last 30 years or so.