My Keris: Newly Made Of Painted Sheath

Mick · 31st December 2004, 09:32 PM

Missed one

nechesh · 31st December 2004, 10:52 PM

Thanks Mick for showing us these earlier examples. I wonder what happened to the blades these wrongko were originally made for. Even if fully restored it seems that the old school sheath painters had a more sublte sense of color.
That's a pretty meaty gonjo you've got on the gayaman wrongko. Whatcha got in there?

Mick · 1st January 2005, 03:33 AM

Nechesh

If you saw the picture of the piece with the carved peacock instead of the normal kembang kacang that I pictured here a year or so ago, that's what is in this sheath.

DhenTal · 3rd February 2005, 06:58 PM

I like the photos in this thread. Looks so cool almost the piece are a real new.
Some Scabbards looks like an old.. but actually is a new made too.
I can't understand.. how forumities suppose that the piece is a good made and old ?
The real old Sunggingan scabbards have a good painting. Look into Ensiklopedia Keris p:448 and Lampiran. That is a real old Sunggingan which made by a Expert Mranggi.

Ria Scabbards more Maduranese than Solonese. At Sumenep, the scabbard like this was sale with a cheap. It more used to tourist consumption. It have a coarse painting.
The Kriss called Pandawa Lok 5, looks like a panjak or common blacksmith. but it is an old piece. If I look clooser, the iron like a Sultan Agung period. The curve at wadidang and gonjo look not too appropriate.
Looks like the Ron Dha at gonjo was brokken, but not.. just not appropriate.

Mick posted better than Ria. The Sunggingan more smooth with an old pendok blewah, old mendak by parinjata and Untu Walang models. The mendaks made by Solonese style. The hilt is old too. It have a good carved (patra).... although it is a new sunggingan too for tourist consumption not too old than 1960, although the scabbard is an old. But.. all of Mick poste is Solonese style, from scabbard 'till the mendaks.
Btw..., The kriss inside, looks like a new kriss. Kriss with Ron Genduru pamor put into ladrang scabbard... and ngulit semongko or wos wutoh at gayaman scabard.
These is just my opinion, it can be wrong....

derek · 3rd February 2005, 08:47 PM

Hi Mick,

I noticed on your example the sun, moon, star, and earth (?) depicted twice. One with a symbol on the earth (if that's what it is) that implies something entering, one the other with a symbol that implies something coming out of the earth. Do you know what that represents?

-d

Mick · 3rd February 2005, 09:31 PM

derek

That is the coat of arms for the Sultan of Solo. The stars, moon ,sun and earth represent the universe. The item that is stuck into the earth is a nail (paku). The Sultan of Solo is known as Pakubuwono (the nail of the universe).

Alam Shah · 4th February 2005, 01:41 AM

Ria, nice artwork piece you have there.

Mick, I love your ladrangan piece. It is beautiful.
I hope to own one of these nice piece ...(if possible, someday...)

The painted ladrang sheath originated from Solo or Surakarta.
I think this is a uniquely Solo practice. (But I may be wrong). The blewah pendok in red lacquer, by tradition, only immediate relatives of the Sultan have the right to have red lacquered sheaths.

31st December 2004, 09:32 PM	#1
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Missed one Attached Images

3rd February 2005, 06:58 PM	#4
DhenTal Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 20	Sunggingan ??? I like the photos in this thread. Looks so cool almost the piece are a real new. Some Scabbards looks like an old.. but actually is a new made too. I can't understand.. how forumities suppose that the piece is a good made and old ? The real old Sunggingan scabbards have a good painting. Look into Ensiklopedia Keris p:448 and Lampiran. That is a real old Sunggingan which made by a Expert Mranggi. Ria Scabbards more Maduranese than Solonese. At Sumenep, the scabbard like this was sale with a cheap. It more used to tourist consumption. It have a coarse painting. The Kriss called Pandawa Lok 5, looks like a panjak or common blacksmith. but it is an old piece. If I look clooser, the iron like a Sultan Agung period. The curve at wadidang and gonjo look not too appropriate. Looks like the Ron Dha at gonjo was brokken, but not.. just not appropriate. Mick posted better than Ria. The Sunggingan more smooth with an old pendok blewah, old mendak by parinjata and Untu Walang models. The mendaks made by Solonese style. The hilt is old too. It have a good carved (patra).... although it is a new sunggingan too for tourist consumption not too old than 1960, although the scabbard is an old. But.. all of Mick poste is Solonese style, from scabbard 'till the mendaks. Btw..., The kriss inside, looks like a new kriss. Kriss with Ron Genduru pamor put into ladrang scabbard... and ngulit semongko or wos wutoh at gayaman scabard. These is just my opinion, it can be wrong....

3rd February 2005, 08:47 PM	#5
derek Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215	Sun, Moon, Stars, and Earth? Hi Mick, I noticed on your example the sun, moon, star, and earth (?) depicted twice. One with a symbol on the earth (if that's what it is) that implies something entering, one the other with a symbol that implies something coming out of the earth. Do you know what that represents? -d

4th February 2005, 01:41 AM	#7
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Nice to have one... Ria, nice artwork piece you have there. Mick, I love your ladrangan piece. It is beautiful. I hope to own one of these nice piece ...(if possible, someday...) The painted ladrang sheath originated from Solo or Surakarta. I think this is a uniquely Solo practice. (But I may be wrong). The blewah pendok in red lacquer, by tradition, only immediate relatives of the Sultan have the right to have red lacquered sheaths. Last edited by Alam Shah; 4th February 2005 at 01:57 AM.

31st December 2004, 10:52 PM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Thanks Mick for showing us these earlier examples. I wonder what happened to the blades these wrongko were originally made for. Even if fully restored it seems that the old school sheath painters had a more sublte sense of color. That's a pretty meaty gonjo you've got on the gayaman wrongko. Whatcha got in there?

1st January 2005, 03:33 AM	#3
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Nechesh If you saw the picture of the piece with the carved peacock instead of the normal kembang kacang that I pictured here a year or so ago, that's what is in this sheath.

3rd February 2005, 09:31 PM	#6
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	derek That is the coat of arms for the Sultan of Solo. The stars, moon ,sun and earth represent the universe. The item that is stuck into the earth is a nail (paku). The Sultan of Solo is known as Pakubuwono (the nail of the universe).