Another Jambiya for Comment

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

I always thought they make good granulation/filigree work and not work like mine. Though it could be?

Anyways, the script contains references to Allah (common between Muslims and Jews) but the mention of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) which I dont expect Jews to mention. But its all possible :-)

Salaams I agree in part but note; Quote. "Jewish silversmiths used to have Muslim and Jewish customers, they also used to work for the royal Muslims, working specially with gold instead of the usual silver. These jewelers also worked doing decoration for the daggers worn by Muslims but not by the Jewish men. This decoration includes some parts of the dagger like amulets and other accessories used with the belt and the djambia'. Unquote.

What I find is that the information is thin on the ground and with the passage of time it will become thinner and eventually vanish. I wondered if there were any stamps on the Buckle etc and rather hoped for someone with an eye for Saudi and Yemeni work to take a broad look at the Jewish Yemeni craftsmanship. At the same time I hope to persuade fellow post originators to place a fair degree of detail and lightweight research around their submissions so as to encourage and promote the pictures which too often contain little or no background.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[A.alnakkas]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams I agree in part but note; Quote. "Jewish silversmiths used to have Muslim and Jewish customers, they also used to work for the royal Muslims, working specially with gold instead of the usual silver. These jewelers also worked doing decoration for the daggers worn by Muslims but not by the Jewish men. This decoration includes some parts of the dagger like amulets and other accessories used with the belt and the djambia'. Unquote.

What I find is that the information is thin on the ground and with the passage of time it will become thinner and eventually vanish. I wondered if there were any stamps on the Buckle etc and rather hoped for someone with an eye for Saudi and Yemeni work to take a broad look at the Jewish Yemeni craftsmanship. At the same time I hope to persuade fellow post originators to place a fair degree of detail and lightweight research around their submissions so as to encourage and promote the pictures which too often contain little or no background.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

I cant be sure about stamps in the back. It has recent cloth covering at the back. Will try to check if I can move it abit.

I had in mind that it could be a special order by the Muslim owner. It is all possible really.

I have a picture of a thouma with an Iraqi niello work (precisely Iraqi work) it belongs to one of the shaikhs of Hashid and has a nice Saifani hilt. There is alot of variations of people making these..

Cant post the photo from my iphone so will do it from my pc when I am home.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

I cant be sure about stamps in the back. It has recent cloth covering at the back. Will try to check if I can move it abit.

I had in mind that it could be a special order by the Muslim owner. It is all possible really.

I have a picture of a thouma with an Iraqi niello work (precisely Iraqi work) it belongs to one of the shaikhs of Hashid and has a nice Saifani hilt. There is alot of variations of people making these..

Cant post the photo from my iphone so will do it from my pc when I am home.

Salaams A.alnakkas ... Good; Excellent ! Ibrahiim al Balooshi

[A.alnakkas]

Here it is; I was wrong it belongs to the shaikh of Bakail. As you can see the niello work is not like the older Yemeni one, even though it copies the old Yemeni niello writings but is of better quality. The scenery is that of the dijla with river boats and some Iraqi monuments. I have seen identical work on daggers coming out of Iraq with gold coins etc.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Here it is; I was wrong it belongs to the shaikh of Bakail. As you can see the niello work is not like the older Yemeni one, even though it copies the old Yemeni niello writings but is of better quality. The scenery is that of the dijla with river boats and some Iraqi monuments. I have seen identical work on daggers coming out of Iraq with gold coins etc.

Salaams A.alnakkas Remarkable and very confusing at the same time... There must be quite a story behind this since how did the Iraqi people tie up with Yemeni style Jambias...Is this a Bedouin linkage? I'm sure the answer is straight forward but perhaps you can outline what transpired ...Although I am familiar with neillo I have never seen this style before.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[A.alnakkas]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams A.alnakkas Remarkable and very confusing at the same time... There must be quite a story behind this since how did the Iraqi people tie up with Yemeni style Jambias...Is this a Bedouin linkage? I'm sure the answer is straight forward but perhaps you can outline what transpired ...Although I am familiar with neillo I have never seen this style before.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Well Bakail as far as I know does not have a branch in Iraq. Perhaps the shaikh must have commissioned an Iraqi worker to make it, or maybe it was a gift.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Well Bakail as far as I know does not have a branch in Iraq. Perhaps the shaikh must have commissioned an Iraqi worker to make it, or maybe it was a gift.

Salaams Can you give a brief rendition so that we can see the Bakail regional disposition... I was looking at "Tribes of the Euphrates" and trying to trace the provenance... Is this a Yemeni tribe?

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.