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Old 21st January 2013, 07:48 PM   #1
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Hi Ariel,

It appears to be a standard (size and shape) 'Damascus' type dagger hilt mounted to a sword blade. Rather than some specific sword variation of that type.
There seem to be no adaptations or even concessions to the longer blade, even though Syrian swords are often Shamshir type (with guards) and the blade is a sabre which presumably had a guard of familiar type.
Also of course the blade is a 'foreign' sabre and not a Syrian blade (like those in the daggers).
The scabbard mounts are a mixture of the usual kind of 'shamshir' scabbard hangers and crude throat/chape that follow the general construction of those scabbards seen on the daggers.

So, I'd guess that this is a genuine period hybrid rather than a recognised tpye. An atypical re-using of a sabre blade by local craftsmen.
I'd guess at a date of between the wars.

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Old 7th April 2013, 02:25 AM   #2
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The discussion proceeds at a glacial speed, with 3 months-long stops between the responses.... Well, we are talking Middle East here, and the prevailing attitude is Bukra :-)

I do not think we need to demand some kind of engineering sparks of genius, adaptations or concession to the longer type: they work perfectly well together. Why spoil a good design? :-)
Of course, it is not a defined popular pattern: just a shotgun marriage of the foreign blade and a local handle. But that's exactly what appealed to me:-) Seriously, how many types of sharpies can you pinpoint to a specific village just by looking at its construction?
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