An actual New Land pattern pistol

kronckew · 21st January 2013, 08:19 AM

this did give an inventor an idea. one of the first attempts at a rapid fire multi shot weapon was a series of stacked charges and projectiles with touch holes located in the propellant section of each charge, and a sliding ignition system that was moved back after each shot. it never caught on. photo attached below.

oddly enough, there is a modern equivalent that progressed from that idea. it is called 'metal storm' which combines the stacked charge idea with the french multi-barrel mitrailleuse volley gun and an electronic firing system, and can adjustably burst fire up to one million rounds per minute. if you've not seen one in action, youtube has scads of videos.

the electronic system allows anything from 1 to 1x10^6 rpm, and can fire in waves, and patterns. rifles, pistols and 40mm grenade launchers are available.

fernando · 21st January 2013, 02:17 PM

I take it that you can not fire one of these if you are drunk. Have to be in a bright state of mind to avoid shooting the thing in the wrong sequence order ... assuming that it won't betray your best intention and burst itself due to vicinity effects

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kronckew · 21st January 2013, 07:17 PM

i think it was ratcheted to only go from front to back after loading. best not to have a glass of port or three before using it though.

the main reason it was not popular was it's nasty habit of roman candling. each charge rapidly setting off the one behind as a result of windage. instant but unexpected machine gun (MG). misfires were a bit annoying too. and it took a while to reload.

'metal storm' got around that MG problem by adding a seal of some sort that seats on the projectile nose and which then keeps the explosion in front of it from flashing over as the pressure seats the seal further. reloads are easier as they come pre-stacked in a tube which is inserted from the breech.

21st January 2013, 08:19 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,230	this did give an inventor an idea. one of the first attempts at a rapid fire multi shot weapon was a series of stacked charges and projectiles with touch holes located in the propellant section of each charge, and a sliding ignition system that was moved back after each shot. it never caught on. photo attached below. oddly enough, there is a modern equivalent that progressed from that idea. it is called 'metal storm' which combines the stacked charge idea with the french multi-barrel mitrailleuse volley gun and an electronic firing system, and can adjustably burst fire up to one million rounds per minute. if you've not seen one in action, youtube has scads of videos. the electronic system allows anything from 1 to 1x10^6 rpm, and can fire in waves, and patterns. rifles, pistols and 40mm grenade launchers are available. Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 21st January 2013 at 08:35 AM.

21st January 2013, 02:17 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I take it that you can not fire one of these if you are drunk. Have to be in a bright state of mind to avoid shooting the thing in the wrong sequence order ... assuming that it won't betray your best intention and burst itself due to vicinity effects . . Last edited by fernando; 21st January 2013 at 04:20 PM. Reason: spell

21st January 2013, 07:17 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,230	i think it was ratcheted to only go from front to back after loading. best not to have a glass of port or three before using it though. the main reason it was not popular was it's nasty habit of roman candling. each charge rapidly setting off the one behind as a result of windage. instant but unexpected machine gun (MG). misfires were a bit annoying too. and it took a while to reload. 'metal storm' got around that MG problem by adding a seal of some sort that seats on the projectile nose and which then keeps the explosion in front of it from flashing over as the pressure seats the seal further. reloads are easier as they come pre-stacked in a tube which is inserted from the breech.