Medieval shields / paveses / targes

Andi · 11th January 2013, 12:45 PM

And this is my absolute favourite shiels. The painting so so nice and especially the girl is depictes soo cute with excellent fine details of her clothing like the lacing of her dresses sleeve, or the collar of her undergarment. In case the painting is originally from the 1450s it is really extraordinary for its period and contemporary depictions can only be find by masters of arts. In my opinion it reaches the quality of paintings by the van Eyck brothers, Robert Campin, Rogier van der Weyden and others. (Just my opiniononly - cultural historians may disagree me

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Andi · 11th January 2013, 01:11 PM

From Italy Pavia dated to late 15th century at Glasgow Museums

http://collections.glasgowmuseums.co...tml?oid=152066

Andi · 11th January 2013, 01:20 PM

One of the Vienna shields dated to 1493-1508 at Bürgerliches Zeughaus

Unfortunately the image is a bit poor.

http://wwwg.uni-klu.ac.at/kultdoku/k.../html/2824.htm

Andi · 11th January 2013, 01:38 PM

This one can be seen at Bayerisches Nationalmuseum München. It shows a wild man holding a swinging an archaic mace and the coat of arms of the Bavarian City of Deggendorf. Ca 1450.

It was very hard to take this photo as the spotlights were blinking all over the object

Andi · 11th January 2013, 01:47 PM

Two paveses from Museum Lauriacum in Enns, Austria. Depicting St. Geoge dating to 2nd half of 15th century.

http://www.museum-lauriacum.at/m/ind...tadtgeschichte

I am allways astonished about the high quality of the paintings on the shields. But probably this was one of the main reasons that they survived for the last 5 centuries. I guess most of the simple infantrist's shields ended up as firewood.

Andi · 11th January 2013, 01:59 PM

Some of the famous shields from the former Erfurt townhall at Deutsches Historisches Museum Berlin. Dated to 1286-1348 and 1348-1385. More than 30 pieces have survived there as as wall decoration in the main hall.

http://www.dhm.de/datenbank/dhm.php?...fld_0=MI007443
http://www.dhm.de/datenbank/dhm.php?...fld_0=MI007442

Andi · 11th January 2013, 02:41 PM

@ Fernando:

The motto "fahr mit Freuden" (go with joy) on the first Tournament or Cavalry Shield is also very nice. In German it can also be commonly interpreted as "die with joy" or less commonly also as attac with joy i wonder which one has been the right one

fernando · 11th January 2013, 01:14 PM

Excelent feedback, Andi; thank you for that

Ah, i feel as if i were still there enjoying thr sight of these tournament shields

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I am with you on the favourite example choice; although i would also elect the one with the owl, with its peculiar motif and fascinating motto.
"Although I am the hated bird, I rather enjoy that."

11th January 2013, 12:45 PM	#1
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	And this is my absolute favourite shiels. The painting so so nice and especially the girl is depictes soo cute with excellent fine details of her clothing like the lacing of her dresses sleeve, or the collar of her undergarment. In case the painting is originally from the 1450s it is really extraordinary for its period and contemporary depictions can only be find by masters of arts. In my opinion it reaches the quality of paintings by the van Eyck brothers, Robert Campin, Rogier van der Weyden and others. (Just my opiniononly - cultural historians may disagree me ) Attached Images Last edited by Andi; 11th January 2013 at 12:55 PM. Reason: added image

11th January 2013, 01:11 PM	#2
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	From Italy Pavia dated to late 15th century at Glasgow Museums http://collections.glasgowmuseums.co...tml?oid=152066 Attached Images

11th January 2013, 01:20 PM	#3
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	One of the Vienna shields dated to 1493-1508 at Bürgerliches Zeughaus Unfortunately the image is a bit poor. http://wwwg.uni-klu.ac.at/kultdoku/k.../html/2824.htm Attached Images Last edited by Andi; 12th January 2013 at 09:43 AM.

11th January 2013, 01:38 PM	#4
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	This one can be seen at Bayerisches Nationalmuseum München. It shows a wild man holding a swinging an archaic mace and the coat of arms of the Bavarian City of Deggendorf. Ca 1450. It was very hard to take this photo as the spotlights were blinking all over the object Attached Images

11th January 2013, 01:47 PM	#5
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	Two paveses from Museum Lauriacum in Enns, Austria. Depicting St. Geoge dating to 2nd half of 15th century. http://www.museum-lauriacum.at/m/ind...tadtgeschichte I am allways astonished about the high quality of the paintings on the shields. But probably this was one of the main reasons that they survived for the last 5 centuries. I guess most of the simple infantrist's shields ended up as firewood. Attached Images

11th January 2013, 01:59 PM	#6
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	Some of the famous shields from the former Erfurt townhall at Deutsches Historisches Museum Berlin. Dated to 1286-1348 and 1348-1385. More than 30 pieces have survived there as as wall decoration in the main hall. http://www.dhm.de/datenbank/dhm.php?...fld_0=MI007443 http://www.dhm.de/datenbank/dhm.php?...fld_0=MI007442 Attached Images Last edited by Andi; 11th January 2013 at 02:01 PM. Reason: better image

11th January 2013, 02:41 PM	#7
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	@ Fernando: The motto "fahr mit Freuden" (go with joy) on the first Tournament or Cavalry Shield is also very nice. In German it can also be commonly interpreted as "die with joy" or less commonly also as *attac with joy* i wonder which one has been the right one

11th January 2013, 01:14 PM	#8
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Excelent feedback, Andi; thank you for that Ah, i feel as if i were still there enjoying thr sight of these tournament shields . I am with you on the favourite example choice; although i would also elect the one with the owl, with its peculiar motif and fascinating motto. "Although I am the hated bird, I rather enjoy that."