Badik for comment

Sajen · 8th January 2013, 10:01 PM

Regarding the form of Badik handles: I just have had a look to the book "Senjata Pusaka Bugis" and have found two badiks with such elongated handles.

asomotif · 8th January 2013, 11:45 PM

Nice pictures Detlef,

The blades you show make clear what Alan wrote about the pamor and the core of the blade. notice the way the core follows the blades point on your examples.

Never the less Semar's badik is a nice one with very nice silverwork.

Best regards,
Willem

Sajen · 9th January 2013, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

The blades you show make clear what Alan wrote about the pamor and the core of the blade. notice the way the core follows the blades point on your examples.

What Alan write about the pamor and the core seems very logical and he is most probable correct. My point have been the elongated handle form.

Regards,

Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 9th January 2013, 12:20 AM

Thanks for posting that Detlef.

Yes, this book entry may be some evidence that we're looking at a true Sulawesi origin, but as you are probably aware, this book is not what we could call a particularly reliable source. I don't have it with me at the moment, I lent it to a friend to have a look at, I'd like to see what the text says about this form, if indeed it says anything.

However, its a step in the right direction.

semar · 9th January 2013, 03:15 AM

hello Sajen

I have this book to and I think its nice and give much info
ore we have some other book about bugis ????????????????????????
because some time i wonder what is a good book

A. G. Maisey · 9th January 2013, 04:21 AM

Semar, I'm not prepared to comment in detail in respect of that book, but I suggest you read the text and then form your own opinion.

We can usually get something from most books, and we can certainly gain something from this one. My comment in the previous post reflects the opinions that others have given me, and that just happen to coincide with my own.

semar · 9th January 2013, 08:51 AM

that not what i say I only say that I`m wonder of er is a good book that every body like and will say and agree that is the book that every thing what in the book is correct so I think that never will happen because the person that make the book try to tel what he know and try to shear with people that intresst in it and that it not more ore less for example for you its no nice badik ore no badik for some people its a nice badik so its from wich way you will look bud the and of the story its no Pedang any more that what we know and can see its now a Badik
sorry when I make mistake`s with my engels and i don`t want to insult nobody
some people like to have this i the his collection

regards semar

8th January 2013, 10:01 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	Regarding the form of Badik handles: I just have had a look to the book "Senjata Pusaka Bugis" and have found two badiks with such elongated handles. Attached Images

8th January 2013, 11:45 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	Nice pictures Detlef, The blades you show make clear what Alan wrote about the pamor and the core of the blade. notice the way the core follows the blades point on your examples. Never the less Semar's badik is a nice one with very nice silverwork. Best regards, Willem

9th January 2013, 12:20 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Thanks for posting that Detlef. Yes, this book entry may be some evidence that we're looking at a true Sulawesi origin, but as you are probably aware, this book is not what we could call a particularly reliable source. I don't have it with me at the moment, I lent it to a friend to have a look at, I'd like to see what the text says about this form, if indeed it says anything. However, its a step in the right direction.

9th January 2013, 03:15 AM	#5
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	hello Sajen I have this book to and I think its nice and give much info ore we have some other book about bugis ???????????????????????? because some time i wonder what is a good book

9th January 2013, 04:21 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Semar, I'm not prepared to comment in detail in respect of that book, but I suggest you read the text and then form your own opinion. We can usually get something from most books, and we can certainly gain something from this one. My comment in the previous post reflects the opinions that others have given me, and that just happen to coincide with my own.

9th January 2013, 08:51 AM	#7
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	that not what i say I only say that I`m wonder of er is a good book that every body like and will say and agree that is the book that every thing what in the book is correct so I think that never will happen because the person that make the book try to tel what he know and try to shear with people that intresst in it and that it not more ore less for example for you its no nice badik ore no badik for some people its a nice badik so its from wich way you will look bud the and of the story its no Pedang any more that what we know and can see its now a Badik sorry when I make mistake`s with my engels and i don`t want to insult nobody some people like to have this i the his collection regards semar