UNKNOWN SWORD FOR ID.

M ELEY · 5th January 2013, 08:19 AM

I have a sneaky suspicion that this might be one of those Chinese reproductions that turn up now and again on ePray. It has the general look of a Japanese army officer's or police sword, with cherry blossom patterns, etc, but the blade looks bogus to me. Artificially aged brown, with unidentifiable markings. Blade does loosley resemble Chinese blades of the early 20th, but I still call 'foul' on this one.

fernando · 5th January 2013, 01:09 PM

Well Barry,
Focusing on the sword with eyes adjusted by Mark's remarks, i guess i will follow his opinion.
Indeed the letterings don't seem to have any logic sequence.

Valjhun · 5th January 2013, 05:27 PM

It seem like a chinese repro to me too..

Evgeny_K · 6th January 2013, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valjhun

It seem like a chinese repro to me too..

not repro - just fantasy

M ELEY · 6th January 2013, 10:40 AM

Yes, fantasy, but one that many seek to make others think is an old valuable, unidentified piece.
I know the moderators don't like us posting active auctions, so I won't post the direct link. I have found our 'little stinker' on eBay. If you go to eBay and do a search for 'Old French Military Saber Cavalry Sword Signed Sharp Blade', you will see this exact sword. Interestingly, under it at the bottom is one of those Chinese maces we were discussing under another thread. The scary thing about these pieces is that some of them do resemble other types of Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc weapons and can fool even moderately experienced collectors. Not cool-

asomotif · 6th January 2013, 11:23 AM

Creepy to see such patina on the brass and steel

really creepy

Atlantia · 6th January 2013, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M ELEY

Yes, fantasy, but one that many seek to make others think is an old valuable, unidentified piece.
I know the moderators don't like us posting active auctions, so I won't post the direct link. I have found our 'little stinker' on eBay. If you go to eBay and do a search for 'Old French Military Saber Cavalry Sword Signed Sharp Blade', you will see this exact sword. Interestingly, under it at the bottom is one of those Chinese maces we were discussing under another thread. The scary thing about these pieces is that some of them do resemble other types of Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc weapons and can fool even moderately experienced collectors. Not cool-

Well spotted!

In fairness, Barry's one looks far more carefully aged.
Try googling the 'name' (lol) on the blade of the other one: apwfedijgnksxz
It looks like the worst set of scrabble letters ever, 3 vowels and 11 consonants!

Barry,
What is the grip on yours made of?
The colour on the brass is really well done. Quite scary really.
Also seems likme they are taking more care with the scabbards as well. Is it lined?

asomotif · 6th January 2013, 01:59 PM

I usually avoid e-bay, but just checked what is offered from China today.
There are indeed some dangerous forgeries amongst them.
Such as a kai gunto that made me go

5th January 2013, 08:19 AM	#1
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,146	I have a sneaky suspicion that this might be one of those Chinese reproductions that turn up now and again on ePray. It has the general look of a Japanese army officer's or police sword, with cherry blossom patterns, etc, but the blade looks bogus to me. Artificially aged brown, with unidentifiable markings. Blade does loosley resemble Chinese blades of the early 20th, but I still call 'foul' on this one.

5th January 2013, 01:09 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Well Barry, Focusing on the sword with eyes adjusted by Mark's remarks, i guess i will follow his opinion. Indeed the letterings don't seem to have any logic sequence.

5th January 2013, 05:27 PM	#3
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	It seem like a chinese repro to me too..

6th January 2013, 10:40 AM	#5
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,146	Yes, fantasy, but one that many seek to make others think is an old valuable, unidentified piece. I know the moderators don't like us posting active auctions, so I won't post the direct link. I have found our 'little stinker' on eBay. If you go to eBay and do a search for 'Old French Military Saber Cavalry Sword Signed Sharp Blade', you will see this exact sword. Interestingly, under it at the bottom is one of those Chinese maces we were discussing under another thread. The scary thing about these pieces is that some of them do resemble other types of Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc weapons and can fool even moderately experienced collectors. Not cool-

6th January 2013, 11:23 AM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Creepy to see such patina on the brass and steel really creepy

6th January 2013, 01:59 PM	#8
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	I usually avoid e-bay, but just checked what is offered from China today. There are indeed some dangerous forgeries amongst them. Such as a kai gunto that made me go