UNKNOWN SWORD FOR ID.

fernando · 4th January 2013, 01:04 PM

The stamp lettering doesn't suggest bein Brazilian ... from the (portuguese) language point of view

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Will you end up posting a more accurate picture of it?

... and it wouldn't be German made, either :

http://www.germandaggers.com/Gallery/Makers.php

VANDOO · 5th January 2013, 05:59 AM

I LOOKED THRU THE MARKS IN THE LINK BUT FOUND NO MATCH. MY CAMERA DOSEN'T SEEM ABLE TO GET A GOOD PICTURE THOUGH I TRYED SEVERAL TIMES. HERE IS THE BEST ONE OF THE LOT BUT STILL VERY POOR. THE CASTING DOSEN'T SEEM TO BE VERY WELL DONE, THE BLADE IS SHARP AND MADE FOR USE BUT DOSEN'T SHOW WEAR AS IT WAS MADE AND ISSUED DURING A TIME WHEN SWORDS WERE ONLY FOR DRESS OR EMERGENCY.

M ELEY · 5th January 2013, 08:19 AM

I have a sneaky suspicion that this might be one of those Chinese reproductions that turn up now and again on ePray. It has the general look of a Japanese army officer's or police sword, with cherry blossom patterns, etc, but the blade looks bogus to me. Artificially aged brown, with unidentifiable markings. Blade does loosley resemble Chinese blades of the early 20th, but I still call 'foul' on this one.

fernando · 5th January 2013, 01:09 PM

Well Barry,
Focusing on the sword with eyes adjusted by Mark's remarks, i guess i will follow his opinion.
Indeed the letterings don't seem to have any logic sequence.

Valjhun · 5th January 2013, 05:27 PM

It seem like a chinese repro to me too..

Evgeny_K · 6th January 2013, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valjhun

It seem like a chinese repro to me too..

not repro - just fantasy

M ELEY · 6th January 2013, 10:40 AM

Yes, fantasy, but one that many seek to make others think is an old valuable, unidentified piece.
I know the moderators don't like us posting active auctions, so I won't post the direct link. I have found our 'little stinker' on eBay. If you go to eBay and do a search for 'Old French Military Saber Cavalry Sword Signed Sharp Blade', you will see this exact sword. Interestingly, under it at the bottom is one of those Chinese maces we were discussing under another thread. The scary thing about these pieces is that some of them do resemble other types of Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc weapons and can fool even moderately experienced collectors. Not cool-

5th January 2013, 05:59 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I LOOKED THRU THE MARKS IN THE LINK BUT FOUND NO MATCH. MY CAMERA DOSEN'T SEEM ABLE TO GET A GOOD PICTURE THOUGH I TRYED SEVERAL TIMES. HERE IS THE BEST ONE OF THE LOT BUT STILL VERY POOR. THE CASTING DOSEN'T SEEM TO BE VERY WELL DONE, THE BLADE IS SHARP AND MADE FOR USE BUT DOSEN'T SHOW WEAR AS IT WAS MADE AND ISSUED DURING A TIME WHEN SWORDS WERE ONLY FOR DRESS OR EMERGENCY. Attached Images

4th January 2013, 01:04 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	The stamp lettering doesn't suggest bein Brazilian ... from the (portuguese) language point of view . Will you end up posting a more accurate picture of it? ... and it wouldn't be German made, either : http://www.germandaggers.com/Gallery/Makers.php

5th January 2013, 08:19 AM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,146	I have a sneaky suspicion that this might be one of those Chinese reproductions that turn up now and again on ePray. It has the general look of a Japanese army officer's or police sword, with cherry blossom patterns, etc, but the blade looks bogus to me. Artificially aged brown, with unidentifiable markings. Blade does loosley resemble Chinese blades of the early 20th, but I still call 'foul' on this one.

5th January 2013, 01:09 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Well Barry, Focusing on the sword with eyes adjusted by Mark's remarks, i guess i will follow his opinion. Indeed the letterings don't seem to have any logic sequence.

5th January 2013, 05:27 PM	#5
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	It seem like a chinese repro to me too..

6th January 2013, 10:40 AM	#7
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,146	Yes, fantasy, but one that many seek to make others think is an old valuable, unidentified piece. I know the moderators don't like us posting active auctions, so I won't post the direct link. I have found our 'little stinker' on eBay. If you go to eBay and do a search for 'Old French Military Saber Cavalry Sword Signed Sharp Blade', you will see this exact sword. Interestingly, under it at the bottom is one of those Chinese maces we were discussing under another thread. The scary thing about these pieces is that some of them do resemble other types of Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc weapons and can fool even moderately experienced collectors. Not cool-