Dussage Saber

Martin Lubojacky · 29th December 2012, 01:00 PM

Hi P,
I am also looking forward to viewing the whole sword, the upper part is very nice.

Please, this is not my field, but are you sure the name "dussage" or "dussage saber" is correct in this case ? In Edged Weapons by P. Konopisky such weapons from 16th century or beginning of 17th century are called "Sabre of Mideuropean type" - I am enclosing scans of 2 sites with pictures.

Also, acc. to some anthologists, the classical "dussage" should employ the "knife like" handle (with simple crossguard; which also better corresponds with the original meaning of the name of the weapon) instead of the basketguard and hilt with central thorn - enclosed please finf 4 scans.
Best regards,
Martin

PClemente · 29th December 2012, 02:40 PM

Hi Martin,

Your observations are correct. I have seen such sabers described as dussages, Sinclair sabers and tessaks, but looking at true examples of such swords one can see that my sword does not really fit into these categories and can probably more correctly be described as a late 16th century Central European basket hilt saber. I try to collect antique arms of the Thirty Years War 1618-1648 ("try" being the key word) and I thought the sword might fit nicely into my fledgling collection as an example that might have been used in the early period of the war. I have included additional pictures that show the blade, but unfortunately have to play around with the originals to be able to attach a picture of the whole sword (the file size is too large).

Best,
P

cornelistromp · 29th December 2012, 08:03 PM

for a dussage, tessack, etc discussion see also

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=dussage

and even better

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=dussage

best,

cornelistromp · 30th December 2012, 10:42 AM

a picture of an almost identical sword,if not the same sword, from the collection of Gerhard Seifert, sold through the Landshuter Rustkammer on May 18, 2012, lot 379 €1650,-

Gerhart Seifert collection is a beautiful provenance though.

best,

29th December 2012, 01:00 PM	#1
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 845	Hi P, I am also looking forward to viewing the whole sword, the upper part is very nice. Please, this is not my field, but are you sure the name "dussage" or "dussage saber" is correct in this case ? In Edged Weapons by P. Konopisky such weapons from 16th century or beginning of 17th century are called "Sabre of Mideuropean type" - I am enclosing scans of 2 sites with pictures. Also, acc. to some anthologists, the classical "dussage" should employ the "knife like" handle (with simple crossguard; which also better corresponds with the original meaning of the name of the weapon) instead of the basketguard and hilt with central thorn - enclosed please finf 4 scans. Best regards, Martin Attached Images

29th December 2012, 02:40 PM	#2
PClemente Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 42	Hi Martin, Your observations are correct. I have seen such sabers described as dussages, Sinclair sabers and tessaks, but looking at true examples of such swords one can see that my sword does not really fit into these categories and can probably more correctly be described as a late 16th century Central European basket hilt saber. I try to collect antique arms of the Thirty Years War 1618-1648 ("try" being the key word) and I thought the sword might fit nicely into my fledgling collection as an example that might have been used in the early period of the war. I have included additional pictures that show the blade, but unfortunately have to play around with the originals to be able to attach a picture of the whole sword (the file size is too large). Best, P Attached Images

29th December 2012, 08:03 PM	#3
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,063	for a dussage, tessack, etc discussion see also http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=dussage and even better http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=dussage best, Last edited by cornelistromp; 30th December 2012 at 10:42 AM.

30th December 2012, 10:42 AM	#4
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,063	a picture of an almost identical sword,if not the same sword, from the collection of Gerhard Seifert, sold through the Landshuter Rustkammer on May 18, 2012, lot 379 €1650,- Gerhart Seifert collection is a beautiful provenance though. best, Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 30th December 2012 at 10:56 AM.