help identifying writing system

Rick · 24th September 2005, 07:59 PM

Can you show us a picture of the entire pistol please Fernando .
Often form is key to identification of origin which will then help in identifying the language of the inscription .

Tim Simmons · 24th September 2005, 08:14 PM

This is just a thought from the hip. I have dha with the same type of silver wire hammered into crosshatching to form floral patterns as on this pistol, maybe that is a clue. Tim

ham · 25th September 2005, 12:22 AM

This is an Ottoman flintlock pistol dating after 1800, the inscription is in Arabic characters however it is very poorly written and the image is reversed 180 degrees.

Ham

fernando · 25th September 2005, 02:57 PM

Thank you Ham, for the info on the arabic script and also on the model being Ottoman. I will follow your track, for further investigation.
Thank you Rick and T
I still insert the pistol pictures, Rick and Tim, which i had just taken. An ethno type of pistol, with the usual mix of pronenances, like the poorly fitted brass butt cap, saved from a western pistol, and the naive insertion of a crest, probably from the same origin. The large brass bands seem to be from the original mounting, as matching with the disposition of the barrel decorations, which i take as an added value in these pieces, although i favour the existance of the barrel inscription, and the whatever contents of its text.
I hope to get further with that.

Battara · 25th September 2005, 08:45 PM

Looking at the rest of the pictures, could it be Balkan, say, Albanian?

24th September 2005, 07:59 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Pistol Can you show us a picture of the entire pistol please Fernando . Often form is key to identification of origin which will then help in identifying the language of the inscription .

25th September 2005, 12:22 AM	#3
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	This is an Ottoman flintlock pistol dating after 1800, the inscription is in Arabic characters however it is very poorly written and the image is reversed 180 degrees. Ham Last edited by ham; 25th September 2005 at 12:41 AM.

25th September 2005, 02:57 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you Ham, for the info on the arabic script and also on the model being Ottoman. I will follow your track, for further investigation. Thank you Rick and T I still insert the pistol pictures, Rick and Tim, which i had just taken. An ethno type of pistol, with the usual mix of pronenances, like the poorly fitted brass butt cap, saved from a western pistol, and the naive insertion of a crest, probably from the same origin. The large brass bands seem to be from the original mounting, as matching with the disposition of the barrel decorations, which i take as an added value in these pieces, although i favour the existance of the barrel inscription, and the whatever contents of its text. I hope to get further with that. Attached Images

24th September 2005, 08:14 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	This is just a thought from the hip. I have dha with the same type of silver wire hammered into crosshatching to form floral patterns as on this pistol, maybe that is a clue. Tim

25th September 2005, 08:45 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Looking at the rest of the pictures, could it be Balkan, say, Albanian?