New Kard... extremely unique.

Lew · 23rd December 2012, 03:04 AM

Well I think it's a lovely well used kard. The stag hilt indicates northern India. Maybe 1920-40? The hilt exhibits wear and patina. Good find!

Lew

Btw here is one I picked up some years back that is of WW2 vintage more a pesh than a kard forged from a massive file and is exceedingly stout and sharp. Just feels good in the hand which probably why you bought yours

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Montino Bourbon · 23rd December 2012, 03:29 AM

That Is definitely a stout kard. Have you etched it?

"Feels good in the hand"; I like that; that expresses exactly what I feel.

What do you think of the 'hollow ground' blade geometry? The third picture shows it best.

Lew · 23rd December 2012, 03:50 AM

Montino

Most classic kards that I have seen have a flat grind blade geometry but these are of Turkish or Persian in origin. Yours is quite unique. As far as etching mine I can see the teeth from the file it was made from so there is little more to be seen if I were to etch it

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Montino Bourbon · 23rd December 2012, 05:46 AM

Yes, the blade geometry is quite unique. The only other one that I have seen like that was here in Jaipur, at a VERY expensive shop, Allah Baksh, who is famous for hard-to-find antiques. The one that he had had an ivory handle, like many kards for upper-class people, and it was provenanced from Persia. The price was astronomical, one 'lakh', which is 100,000 rupees, roughly $2000.- and the last two inches toward the point was very pitted, which put me off; what if I was in the supermarket and a knife fight broke out over the sushi? It might break in combat, and that I can't allow to happen!

Anyway, I have only seen one other like it. Now, I will try to etch it, but being in India traveling I have to see what 'field expedients' I can use.

David R · 23rd December 2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lew

Montino

Most classic kards that I have seen have a flat grind blade geometry but these are of Turkish or Persian in origin. Yours is quite unique. As far as etching mine I can see the teeth from the file it was made from so there is little more to be seen if I were to etch it

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Are you sure they are the remains of a file's teeth, koftgari when stripped leaves behind a cross hatched pattern in the steel that can look like the remains of a file.

Lew · 23rd December 2012, 12:38 PM

David yes I'm sure they are file teeth. Use to hang out with many blade smiths when I first got the bug and saw many examples a hand forged knives from files.

23rd December 2012, 03:04 AM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Well I think it's a lovely well used kard. The stag hilt indicates northern India. Maybe 1920-40? The hilt exhibits wear and patina. Good find! Lew Btw here is one I picked up some years back that is of WW2 vintage more a pesh than a kard forged from a massive file and is exceedingly stout and sharp. Just feels good in the hand which probably why you bought yours . Attached Images Last edited by Lew; 23rd December 2012 at 03:18 AM.

23rd December 2012, 03:29 AM	#2
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	That Is definitely a stout kard. Have you etched it? "Feels good in the hand"; I like that; that expresses exactly what I feel. What do you think of the 'hollow ground' blade geometry? The third picture shows it best.

23rd December 2012, 03:50 AM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Montino Most classic kards that I have seen have a flat grind blade geometry but these are of Turkish or Persian in origin. Yours is quite unique. As far as etching mine I can see the teeth from the file it was made from so there is little more to be seen if I were to etch it .

23rd December 2012, 05:46 AM	#4
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	Yes, the blade geometry is quite unique. The only other one that I have seen like that was here in Jaipur, at a VERY expensive shop, Allah Baksh, who is famous for hard-to-find antiques. The one that he had had an ivory handle, like many kards for upper-class people, and it was provenanced from Persia. The price was astronomical, one 'lakh', which is 100,000 rupees, roughly $2000.- and the last two inches toward the point was very pitted, which put me off; what if I was in the supermarket and a knife fight broke out over the sushi? It might break in combat, and that I can't allow to happen! Anyway, I have only seen one other like it. Now, I will try to etch it, but being in India traveling I have to see what 'field expedients' I can use.

23rd December 2012, 12:38 PM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	David yes I'm sure they are file teeth. Use to hang out with many blade smiths when I first got the bug and saw many examples a hand forged knives from files.