Keris - javanese blade in Kedah mounts?

Jean · 21st December 2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I have seen numerous examples of Hippo Tooth for sale on gunbroker.com .
Usually from a Seller located in Florida .

Hello Rick,
Yes indeed, if you google "hippo ivory sale" you will find this site which proposes many tusks at a very attractive price (cheaper than registered elephant ivory).
Regards

A. G. Maisey · 21st December 2012, 10:20 AM

Jean, I don't know if these are Bugis people. The references I have only say "Malay".

They might be Bugis, but I don't know.

What I'm mostly interested in is this:-

when was the first mention of hippo ivory being used in these hilts, who made it, and upon what basis.

Following on from that, the proof that these hilts are definitely hippo ivory, not just the possibility that they could be hippo ivory.

Jean · 21st December 2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Jean, I don't know if these are Bugis people. The references I have only say "Malay".

They might be Bugis, but I don't know.

Hello Alan,
If you google "Malagasy people" and select Wikipedia you will read that: the "first Austronesian settlers (in Madagascar) arrived between the 3rd and 10th century from Borneo" but I can't comment on it and agree that they may be Bugis or not.
Regards

Jean · 21st December 2012, 10:21 AM

I found a recent and interesting article about the various types of ivory at the following address:
http://stoneplus.cst.cmich.edu/zoogems/ivory.html
Nothing very new in it but a good summary with references and it confirms the dotted line and the higher density of hippo ivory (and spermwhale ivory) than elephant ivory especially. It also says that Schreger lines are only found in elephant or mamooth ivory

Regards

21st December 2012, 10:21 AM	#4
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I found a recent and interesting article about the various types of ivory at the following address: http://stoneplus.cst.cmich.edu/zoogems/ivory.html Nothing very new in it but a good summary with references and it confirms the dotted line and the higher density of hippo ivory (and spermwhale ivory) than elephant ivory especially. It also says that Schreger lines are only found in elephant or mamooth ivory Regards Last edited by Jean; 21st December 2012 at 12:17 PM.

21st December 2012, 10:20 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,029	Jean, I don't know if these are Bugis people. The references I have only say "Malay". They might be Bugis, but I don't know. What I'm mostly interested in is this:- when was the first mention of hippo ivory being used in these hilts, who made it, and upon what basis. Following on from that, the proof that these hilts are definitely hippo ivory, not just the possibility that they could be hippo ivory.