Is this an "old man's hobby"?

Andrew · 24th November 2012, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Oo, oo - what kind of martial arts?

lol.

ITF Taekwon-do
Chung Do Kwon
Muay Thai
Western boxing
Submission wrestling (w/a little BJJ)

Timo Nieminen · 25th November 2012, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

ITF Taekwon-do
Chung Do Kwon
Muay Thai
Western boxing
Submission wrestling (w/a little BJJ)

Wot? No weapons?

ITF TKD
Liechtenauer, mostly longsword
Chinese spear
Chinese archery

In the past, foil fencing and SCA heavy if you call those martial arts.

Atlantia · 25th November 2012, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo Nieminen

Wot? No weapons?

ITF TKD
Liechtenauer, mostly longsword
Chinese spear
Chinese archery

In the past, foil fencing and SCA heavy if you call those martial arts.

Martial art's don't get any purer than Fencing!
Makes me wish I still had two ankles made of bone

Atlantia · 25th November 2012, 01:37 AM

My collection has waxed and waned over the years.
I've always been of the opinion that if circumstances demand the sacrifice of the collection then that's OK.
Several times I've been forced to liquidate my collections entirely.
Thankfully I live in a country where there is no shortage of things to spend money on when circumstances allow.
We are custodians of these items for a short time. We keep them for a while, preserve and even at times restore, then they are passed to the next person. It's all part of their story.
They pre-date us and will outlive us. So we are just a small part of their story.
My collection now is probobly as good as it's ever been, but it's an evolving thing.
It's difficult to directly compare it with 'high points of the past'.
I still miss some of the items I've owned in the past. But It's more diverse now than it's ever been.
I decided a few years ago when I wanted to appear more 'rounded' to "Mrs Atlantia" that I'd soften the 'theme' with some associated items.
http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...view=slideshow
I find now that I enjoy some of these items as much as the weapons.

TVV · 25th November 2012, 02:28 AM

I am 31. I started with a souvenir knife from a trip to Turkey when I was 14, if that counts as a beginning.

kronckew · 25th November 2012, 06:21 AM

i'm admitting to 65 at the moment.

ignoring the odd pocket knife, i started with buying my sword when i was commissioned in 1968 at 20, closely followed by asking john eck to make me a knife. connecting to the internet a number of years ago has made it easier to acquire new ethnic pretties.

i did have a keen interest in historical fiction and was captain of the new york state university maritime college epee team in my senior year, fencing for the 4 years i spent as a cadet there, which helped prejudice me in favour of sharp pointy things. and bludgeons.

Andrew · 26th November 2012, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Martial art's don't get any purer than Fencing!
Makes me wish I still had two ankles made of bone

Agreed.

A. G. Maisey · 27th November 2012, 12:32 AM

Andrew, may I request a clarification, please?

In your post #100 you tell us that MMA has made the mixing of a number of styles of martial arts "de rigueur".

I am not a martial artist, in fact for a long time I've been a firm believer in the wisdom of Sun Tsu, however I did have a little involvement in some physical combat during my misspent youth, and this has resulted in an ongoing interest in martial arts in general.

It is my understanding that perhaps the most effective art overall is BJJ, with the best foundation for MMA being traditional wrestling --- I won't nominate a particular style, but I feel that possibly greco-roman might be the most effective base, simply because of its artificial restraints, which militate a chess-like approach to competition.

You clearly have a far greater knowledge in this area than do I, as well as the benefit of being an active participant, so do you think you could explain for me how multi skilling in a variety of arts contributes to success in MMA?

I do follow this spasmodically, and from what I can see it is mostly wrestlers with a few added in BJJ skills who have dominated overall, except for the early years when it was all BJJ.

But I do not have your knowledge nor your experience, so perhaps I'm wrong.

This is well and truly off-topic, so if you wish respond privately, or direct me to a website, I'm fine with that.

Thanks, Alan.

Andrew · 27th November 2012, 02:50 PM

OT martial arts discussion continued here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...730#post148730

Sunmit · 28th November 2012, 06:04 AM

I am 27 and started seriously collecting about 6 years ago. The cost of antiques is definitely a factor that leaves me just saving photos of things in my wish list folder

To be honest talking to the folks that have been in the indo persian collecting world at shows has been the best part about all of this - being comparatively sort of young I get to hear a lot of awesome stories, suggestions etc from those that have been doing this for than 20+ years.

Definitely cherish meeting everyone once a year at the baltimore show as well, its always an awesome experience.

Andrew · 26th November 2012, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo Nieminen

Wot? No weapons?

ITF TKD
Liechtenauer, mostly longsword
Chinese spear
Chinese archery

In the past, foil fencing and SCA heavy if you call those martial arts.

No formal weapons training--mostly just wasters and "test cutting" for fun.

Atlantia · 25th November 2012, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

lol.

Submission wrestling (w/a little BJJ)

Keep it clean!

Andrew · 26th November 2012, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Keep it clean!

lol

Battara · 25th November 2012, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

lol.

ITF Taekwon-do
Chung Do Kwon
Muay Thai
Western boxing
Submission wrestling (w/a little BJJ)

Wow! Nice! Thank you Andrew.

I did Tae Kwon do once, then Shotokan, then Judo, then Chinese Kenpo, an intro to Winchun and an intro to Arnis/Escrima. I am currently working on American Kenpo (with a small mixture of other stuff).

Also I got started collecting in my mid-twenties right after I got married.

My first piece was a Nazi SA dagger, but soon ditched that and got into pieces from the Philippines (and a few other countries).

Andrew · 26th November 2012, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Wow! Nice! Thank you Andrew.

I did Tae Kwon do once, then Shotokan, then Judo, then Chinese Kenpo, an intro to Winchun and an intro to Arnis/Escrima. I am currently working on American Kenpo (with a small mixture of other stuff).

Also I got started collecting in my mid-twenties right after I got married.

My first piece was a Nazi SA dagger, but soon ditched that and got into pieces from the Philippines (and a few other countries).

Funny how guys like us who "taste" many different styles used to be denigrated--these days, MMA has made it de rigueur.

I still train my core art, and always will, however...

25th November 2012, 01:37 AM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	My collection has waxed and waned over the years. I've always been of the opinion that if circumstances demand the sacrifice of the collection then that's OK. Several times I've been forced to liquidate my collections entirely. Thankfully I live in a country where there is no shortage of things to spend money on when circumstances allow. We are custodians of these items for a short time. We keep them for a while, preserve and even at times restore, then they are passed to the next person. It's all part of their story. They pre-date us and will outlive us. So we are just a small part of their story. My collection now is probobly as good as it's ever been, but it's an evolving thing. It's difficult to directly compare it with 'high points of the past'. I still miss some of the items I've owned in the past. But It's more diverse now than it's ever been. I decided a few years ago when I wanted to appear more 'rounded' to "Mrs Atlantia" that I'd soften the 'theme' with some associated items. http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...view=slideshow I find now that I enjoy some of these items as much as the weapons. Last edited by Atlantia; 25th November 2012 at 01:49 AM.

25th November 2012, 02:28 AM	#5
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	I am 31. I started with a souvenir knife from a trip to Turkey when I was 14, if that counts as a beginning.

25th November 2012, 06:21 AM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	i'm admitting to 65 at the moment. ignoring the odd pocket knife, i started with buying my sword when i was commissioned in 1968 at 20, closely followed by asking john eck to make me a knife. connecting to the internet a number of years ago has made it easier to acquire new ethnic pretties. i did have a keen interest in historical fiction and was captain of the new york state university maritime college epee team in my senior year, fencing for the 4 years i spent as a cadet there, which helped prejudice me in favour of sharp pointy things. and bludgeons.

27th November 2012, 12:32 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Andrew, may I request a clarification, please? In your post #100 you tell us that MMA has made the mixing of a number of styles of martial arts "de rigueur". I am not a martial artist, in fact for a long time I've been a firm believer in the wisdom of Sun Tsu, however I did have a little involvement in some physical combat during my misspent youth, and this has resulted in an ongoing interest in martial arts in general. It is my understanding that perhaps the most effective art overall is BJJ, with the best foundation for MMA being traditional wrestling --- I won't nominate a particular style, but I feel that possibly greco-roman might be the most effective base, simply because of its artificial restraints, which militate a chess-like approach to competition. You clearly have a far greater knowledge in this area than do I, as well as the benefit of being an active participant, so do you think you could explain for me how multi skilling in a variety of arts contributes to success in MMA? I do follow this spasmodically, and from what I can see it is mostly wrestlers with a few added in BJJ skills who have dominated overall, except for the early years when it was all BJJ. But I do not have your knowledge nor your experience, so perhaps I'm wrong. This is well and truly off-topic, so if you wish respond privately, or direct me to a website, I'm fine with that. Thanks, Alan.

27th November 2012, 02:50 PM	#9
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	OT martial arts discussion continued here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...730#post148730

28th November 2012, 06:04 AM	#10
Sunmit Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: United States Posts: 11	I am 27 and started seriously collecting about 6 years ago. The cost of antiques is definitely a factor that leaves me just saving photos of things in my wish list folder To be honest talking to the folks that have been in the indo persian collecting world at shows has been the best part about all of this - being comparatively sort of young I get to hear a lot of awesome stories, suggestions etc from those that have been doing this for than 20+ years. Definitely cherish meeting everyone once a year at the baltimore show as well, its always an awesome experience.