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Old 18th November 2012, 06:44 PM   #1
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OK. Thank you all for your input. This one is a real puzzle. Appreciate your efforts. Rick.
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Dont know what the script is, or even if it is one, but the proof marks look like the British pre-1813 Kings Proof and View mark, see http://www.birminghamgunmuseum.com/m...ptres_Mark.pdf
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Old 19th November 2012, 05:54 PM   #3
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Dont know what the script is, or even if it is one, but the proof marks look like the British pre-1813 Kings Proof and View mark, see http://www.birminghamgunmuseum.com/m...ptres_Mark.pdf
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Salaams Andreas ~ Thoroughly excellent reference thanks I enjoyed reading that...
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Old 19th November 2012, 08:50 PM   #4
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Salaams Andreas ~ Thoroughly excellent reference thanks I enjoyed reading that...
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Xerete Ibrahiim,
Thank you and I'm glad you found the article interesting.
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Old 19th November 2012, 05:57 PM   #5
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Yes I agree they LOOK like, but are not IMHO. Proof marks do not vary in any way as they are an OFFICIAL item designed for a specific purpose.....gun barrel Proof, and the Brits take this VERY seriously, for a very good reason....safety.
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Dont know what the script is, or even if it is one, but the proof marks look like the British pre-1813 Kings Proof and View mark, see http://www.birminghamgunmuseum.com/m...ptres_Mark.pdf
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Old 19th November 2012, 07:30 PM   #6
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Yes I agree they LOOK like, but are not IMHO. Proof marks do not vary in any way as they are an OFFICIAL item designed for a specific purpose.....gun barrel Proof, and the Brits take this VERY seriously, for a very good reason....safety.
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A reasonable assumption, but it seems that there were variations within the basic design of these early crown over crossed sceptres marks, please check the pics below. In numismatics a similar situation is called a die variety, variations in a coin’s design that are attributed to the die from which the coin was struck.
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Old 19th November 2012, 11:28 PM   #7
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Your point is taken re variances. My comments are based on three very notable authors who have researched world Proof Marks. They are W.W Greener, Mr Lee Kennett and Baron Engelhardt, all of whom have published works on the subject.
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A reasonable assumption, but it seems that there were variations within the basic design of these early crown over crossed sceptres marks, please check the pics below. In numismatics a similar situation is called a die variety, variations in a coin’s design that are attributed to the die from which the coin was struck.
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