FAMOUS WEAPONS WITH PROVENANCE

kronckew · 13th November 2012, 07:41 AM

hauswehr attributed to martin luther,
Staatliche Kunstsammlungen Dresden

fernando · 14th November 2012, 03:29 PM

Sword attributed do Pedro Alvares Cabral.
... a Portuguese nobleman, military commander, navigator and explorer regarded as the discoverer of Brazil in 1500.
Originally sacked from a tomb in the church of da Graça, city of Santarem. After being wandering out there for a while, was first acquired by a well known family, then passed on to two distinct private collections and, in the sixties, ended in Rainer Daehnhardt collection, where is kept in a mahogany+acrylic+glass vitrine, in a manner that it may be observed by all angles without having to be handled.
There are only five of these swords known and referenced, which model is depicted in the São Vicente panels.
(Use full resolution, for better detail)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lagos40_kopie.jpg
Its condition is rather bad but, due to its maximum importance, the owner never attempted and doesn't intend to restore it. The blade is broken in two parts and the tip is missing 4-5 cms. Its present length is 78 cms.

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fernando · 28th November 2012, 05:45 PM

Sword of Portuguese King Dom João I (1385-1433).
Images kindly provided for this purpose by Ensign Officer Ana Soares - Lisbon Military Museum.

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fernando · 28th November 2012, 07:07 PM

Sword of Portuguese hero Dom Nuno Alvares Pereira 1360-1431.
Military Constable of the Kingdom for Dom João I, he played the major rule that defined Portuguese indepence continuity, in the decisive battle of Aljubarrota in 1385 (among others). The compensations of Dom João for his victories were so vast that he became one of the richest men in Portugal. He was the founder of the House of Braganza, at the time one of the richest in Europe.
Having later decided to devote his life to religion, he rejected all his wealth and retired to the Convent of Carmo in 1423, to be a monk, where he stayed until he died with 71 years.
He was beatified by the Pope Bento XV in 1918 and recently canonized by Pope Bento XVI in 2009.
Having this sword been found among the wreckage of the convent after the 1755 earthquake, the monks decided that it should be held by the hand of Saint Elias image, during the anual Corpus Cristi procession. As it appeared to be too large for the purpose, the monks decided to cut off part of the blade.

Only in 1854 King Dom Pedro IV ordered its transfer to the Royal Archives, where it stayed until 1915, when it was moved to the Military Museum.
With a 7 cms. blade width and a (present) weight of 2400 grams, it is noticeable the number of perforations made to make it lighter for battle.
Images kindly provided fo this purpose by Ensign Officer Ana Soares of the Military Museu.

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ariel · 3rd December 2012, 02:29 PM

The last picture demonstrates the consequences of putting aesthetics before physics

The tip of the sword is almost falling off at the breaks across the fancy piercing.

fernando · 3rd December 2012, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

The last picture demonstrates the consequences of putting aesthetics before physics

The tip of the sword is almost falling off at the breaks across the fancy piercing.

I would consider the contextual ambience. The issue was gravity, no matter aesthetics. All the monks wanted was to shorten a symbolic 'device' that could cause the saint to fall off the litter ... ignorants

13th November 2012, 07:41 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	hauswehr attributed to martin luther, Staatliche Kunstsammlungen Dresden Attached Images

14th November 2012, 03:29 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Sword of Pedro Alvares Cabral Sword attributed do Pedro Alvares Cabral. ... a Portuguese nobleman, military commander, navigator and explorer regarded as the discoverer of Brazil in 1500. Originally sacked from a tomb in the church of da Graça, city of Santarem. After being wandering out there for a while, was first acquired by a well known family, then passed on to two distinct private collections and, in the sixties, ended in Rainer Daehnhardt collection, where is kept in a mahogany+acrylic+glass vitrine, in a manner that it may be observed by all angles without having to be handled. There are only five of these swords known and referenced, which model is depicted in the São Vicente panels. (Use full resolution, for better detail) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lagos40_kopie.jpg Its condition is rather bad but, due to its maximum importance, the owner never attempted and doesn't intend to restore it. The blade is broken in two parts and the tip is missing 4-5 cms. Its present length is 78 cms. . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 15th November 2012 at 01:15 PM.

28th November 2012, 05:45 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Sword of Portuguese King Dom João I (1385-1433). Images kindly provided for this purpose by Ensign Officer Ana Soares - Lisbon Military Museum. . Attached Images

28th November 2012, 07:07 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Sword of Dom Nuno Alvares Pereira Sword of Portuguese hero Dom Nuno Alvares Pereira 1360-1431. Military Constable of the Kingdom for Dom João I, he played the major rule that defined Portuguese indepence continuity, in the decisive battle of Aljubarrota in 1385 (among others). The compensations of Dom João for his victories were so vast that he became one of the richest men in Portugal. He was the founder of the House of Braganza, at the time one of the richest in Europe. Having later decided to devote his life to religion, he rejected all his wealth and retired to the Convent of Carmo in 1423, to be a monk, where he stayed until he died with 71 years. He was beatified by the Pope Bento XV in 1918 and recently canonized by Pope Bento XVI in 2009. Having this sword been found among the wreckage of the convent after the 1755 earthquake, the monks decided that it should be held by the hand of Saint Elias image, during the anual Corpus Cristi procession. As it appeared to be too large for the purpose, the monks decided to cut off part of the blade. Only in 1854 King Dom Pedro IV ordered its transfer to the Royal Archives, where it stayed until 1915, when it was moved to the Military Museum. With a 7 cms. blade width and a (present) weight of 2400 grams, it is noticeable the number of perforations made to make it lighter for battle. Images kindly provided fo this purpose by Ensign Officer Ana Soares of the Military Museu. . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 28th November 2012 at 07:35 PM.

3rd December 2012, 02:29 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	The last picture demonstrates the consequences of putting aesthetics before physics The tip of the sword is almost falling off at the breaks across the fancy piercing.