Fully Loaded Binangon

VVV · 6th November 2012, 06:08 AM

What a beauty, congratulations!!!

Michael

carlos · 6th November 2012, 08:07 AM

This is a really beatiful sword ¡

congratulations with this adquisition
best regards

carlos

CharlesS · 6th November 2012, 07:22 PM

Very nice...and great to know there are still treasures out there in the least likely places!

Bangkaya · 20th November 2012, 10:13 AM

Nice score on the binangon, Spunjer! I'll call it a tinegre since it has the figural anito head. Either way it's Ilonggo so I wouldn't call it a sanduko.

As for the floral motif found on swords on the island of Panay, the katmon flower figures highly as a cultural and mythical motif especially among the Suluds of the highlands. It's a very common motif embroidered among their blouses. As Spunjer noted, it is representative of the 4 cardinal points. However, the pre-Spanish belief was that the flower was an offering to Bakunawa to prevent his wrath upon the people which usually was floods, typhoons, etc. Moreover, Bakunawa was blamed for eclipses....as explained in this Amaya episode.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD656KPnrv8

One example of the katmon flower being used as an offering is that it is placed in the first hole dug for the mainframe posts of a house. Depending on the time of the year the structure is made determines the direction in which Bakunawa is resting and holes are then dug in a certain direction and order accordingly. This offering and the correct procedure in constructing a house or building prevents Bakunawa's wrath and helps protect it from typhoons, floods, earthquakes, etc.

Regards,
Bangkaya

Spunjer · 13th January 2013, 05:26 PM

You know, growing up in Iloilo and spending the summers in my grandma's farm in Ajuy, I have never heard anyone used the term tinegre, even from the old timers. It's always binangon. It was when i started collecting when i heard the term tinegre for the first time.

Now my old man, he's no collector, intimated to me that the term tinegre are those that were used by the bandits, whatever they may be. It connotes bad juju. That, and plaminkos.

20th November 2012, 10:13 AM	#4
Bangkaya Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 38	Nice score on the binangon, Spunjer! I'll call it a tinegre since it has the figural anito head. Either way it's Ilonggo so I wouldn't call it a sanduko. As for the floral motif found on swords on the island of Panay, the katmon flower figures highly as a cultural and mythical motif especially among the Suluds of the highlands. It's a very common motif embroidered among their blouses. As Spunjer noted, it is representative of the 4 cardinal points. However, the pre-Spanish belief was that the flower was an offering to Bakunawa to prevent his wrath upon the people which usually was floods, typhoons, etc. Moreover, Bakunawa was blamed for eclipses....as explained in this Amaya episode. HTML Code: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD656KPnrv8 One example of the katmon flower being used as an offering is that it is placed in the first hole dug for the mainframe posts of a house. Depending on the time of the year the structure is made determines the direction in which Bakunawa is resting and holes are then dug in a certain direction and order accordingly. This offering and the correct procedure in constructing a house or building prevents Bakunawa's wrath and helps protect it from typhoons, floods, earthquakes, etc. Regards, Bangkaya

6th November 2012, 06:08 AM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	What a beauty, congratulations!!! Michael

6th November 2012, 08:07 AM	#2
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 748	This is a really beatiful sword ¡ congratulations with this adquisition best regards carlos

6th November 2012, 07:22 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Very nice...and great to know there are still treasures out there in the least likely places!

13th January 2013, 05:26 PM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	You know, growing up in Iloilo and spending the summers in my grandma's farm in Ajuy, I have never heard anyone used the term tinegre, even from the old timers. It's always binangon. It was when i started collecting when i heard the term tinegre for the first time. Now my old man, he's no collector, intimated to me that the term tinegre are those that were used by the bandits, whatever they may be. It connotes bad juju. That, and plaminkos.