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			Hello Fernando and A Senefelder, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Thank you for your comments. Fernando, you are right this looks a lot like the katzbalger blade in this post http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...67&postcount=3 I didn't even think about katzbalgers because i dated this blade much later. Maybe the swordsmith was inspired by katzbalger blades. In the unlikely case that this is indeed a shortened katzbalger blade i would have made the deal of my life... ![]() As i wrote the crest is definitely that of William, Duke of Brunswick (1830-1884): http://diglib.hab.de/?grafik=exlib-berlepsch-19-1-00130 * The "honi soit..." motto is indeed from the Order of the Garter and "Nec aspera terrent" is the motto of the Welfes. So, no surprise there. I think the blade is older than the etching mainly because of the older encraving indicating a "F. Duke of Brunswick". I wonder who could be meant by that...   Best Regards, Thilo * sorry for the link but i am not allowed to copy the picture to this forum  | 
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