interesting Katar for comment

Jim McDougall · 27th October 2012, 12:26 AM

I was being lazy

so I went to the books.........as Ariel notes these shaped bar hilt katars are known as 'garsoe jamadhar' (Pant, 1980, #415,416). Pant insists that the term jamadhar is the correct term for 'katar' and that Egerton transposed the term.
Apparantly these are from regions in Bhuj, Gujerat and Sind. Seems unusual to see wootz on these to me at least, but as noted Jens will know far more as these have been his field of study for many years.

I just wanted to add a little perspective to this nice example beyond the katar classification. I wonder what the meaning of the garsoe term might be, hopefully some input on that will be entered.

Lew · 27th October 2012, 02:53 AM

Here is a close up I think I can make out some type of wootz or pattern welded lamination? Oops the photo is low res I will try to update it tomorrow.

Jens Nordlunde · 27th October 2012, 02:08 PM

Hi Lew,
It's an interesting katar/jamdahar you got.
Ariel and Jim are of course right both when it comes to the name and the place of origin.
If the blade is of wootz, it would not surprise me if the rest of the katar is as well. Nice find congratulations

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Jens

Lew · 28th October 2012, 03:12 AM

Thanks guys

It will arrive in two to three weeks. Will post more pics after I etch it

.

27th October 2012, 02:53 AM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here is a close up I think I can make out some type of wootz or pattern welded lamination? Oops the photo is low res I will try to update it tomorrow. Attached Images

27th October 2012, 12:26 AM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,192	I was being lazy so I went to the books.........as Ariel notes these shaped bar hilt katars are known as 'garsoe jamadhar' (Pant, 1980, #415,416). Pant insists that the term jamadhar is the correct term for 'katar' and that Egerton transposed the term. Apparantly these are from regions in Bhuj, Gujerat and Sind. Seems unusual to see wootz on these to me at least, but as noted Jens will know far more as these have been his field of study for many years. I just wanted to add a little perspective to this nice example beyond the katar classification. I wonder what the meaning of the garsoe term might be, hopefully some input on that will be entered.

27th October 2012, 02:08 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Lew, It's an interesting katar/jamdahar you got. Ariel and Jim are of course right both when it comes to the name and the place of origin. If the blade is of wootz, it would not surprise me if the rest of the katar is as well. Nice find congratulations . Jens

28th October 2012, 03:12 AM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Thanks guys It will arrive in two to three weeks. Will post more pics after I etch it .