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Old 24th September 2012, 06:18 PM   #1
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yes, we are working on, it is indeed a Koranic text,
and by the way, we'll have a look about the 2 small cartouches
but short mentions, issued from a huge book as well as the Holy Quran
it's like looking for a needle in a haystack, but might be ... Inch'Allah
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as committed, we found in Holy Quran, the corresponding passages
for the sentence on spine
extracted from Holy Quran - Surat n°9 - AT-TAWBAH
part of the verse 29
FIGHT THOSE WHO BELEIVE NOT IN ALLAH NOR THE LAST DAY,
NOR FORBID THAT WHICH ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER HAVE FORBIDDEN,
AND WHO DO NOT PROFESS THE RELIGION OF TRUE



for the two (2) small "cartouches"
extracted from Holy Quran - Surat n°3 - AL-IMRAN
part of the verse 103
HE JOINED YOUR HEARTS TOGETHER, SO THAT, BY HIS GRACE, YOU BECAME BRETHREN

everything comes to he who waits

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Old 9th October 2012, 10:05 AM   #2
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Hello to all.
I am new to this truly exceptional forum and this is my first post, so please forgive me if I do something wrong inadvertently. I hope the following is of some help.
I think I have identified two of the coats of arms on the suspension bands.
In the photo showing the second pair of bands, the one on the left appears to be a variation of the Glegg family arms (and Sir James and Sir Alexander Burnes’ mother’s maiden name was Elizabeth Glegg). The other shield bears the arms of a Holland (also spelled Hoyland) family. A James Holland married in India a sister of the Burnes brothers, but why his arms should appear on the bands…
I wasn’t able to identify the other pair. Perhaps an enquiry to the Scottish and English Heraldry Colleges (respectively The Court of the Lord Lyon and The College of Arms) might help. As to how the sword found its way to Peru, it should be noted that a nephew, Ernest Burnes Whish, immigrated to South America, probably in the late 1860’s or early 70’s.
If I may, I would recommend to those interested in the historical period concerned, to read Sir Alexander’s fascinating memoirs Cabool: being a personal narrative of a journey to, and residence in that city in the years 1836, 7, and 8, (http://books.google.gr/books/about/C...AJ&redir_esc=y) and also, in a lighter vein, George MacDonald Fraser’s novel Flashman, which is set at the time of the First Anglo-Afghan War and in which Sir Alexander is vividly portrayed.
Envious congratulations on a piece with such a historical background.
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Old 9th October 2012, 06:15 PM   #3
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"but why his arms should appear on the bands… "

Maybe it was as simple as just needing to find four coats of arms to maintain the symmetry of the design.

Anyway, Christies seem popular. so here's another one (sorry, I can only do links)
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/l...ID=54470031002

The "British envoy" referred to was, I believe Sir Alexander Burnes.

Lastly, Mir Murad Ali Khan remained loyal to the British (and them to him), even during The Mutiny of 1857, remaining Amir of Khaipur until his death in 1894.
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Old 9th October 2012, 06:39 PM   #4
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andrea
thank very much for the compliment and your interest
i try to look for burnes family in peru
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