keris jalak with rare pamor

[satsujinken]

Originally Posted by David

Thanks Alan. I wasn't making any serious challenge of this keris in regards to age, merely commenting that my ability to be able to judge the difference between an actual old example of this pamor and a newly made and expertly aged example solely based upon this photograph is basically nil. And it is a beauty regardless. A very intriguing and complex pamor in beautiful dress. In my comment above i was really referring to all the other examples shown which still seem to me to be a completely different pamor pattern than Hidayat's keris

agree with you .... to know, we must held it in our hand ... pictures does speak thousand words, but cannot substitute real handling

I spoke to my friend, a pande (blacksmith) here in Surabaya, he usually made daggers, dirks and scythe ... and he said that he cannot reproduce the blade or even make a blade with the same pamor ... too difficult he said

[Jussi M.]

Beautiful pamor.

Being able to make such a complex pamor in past days gone must had called for a truly experienced and/or gifted maker.

Very nice

Thanks,

J.

[Richard Furrer]

Originally Posted by Jussi M.

Beautiful pamor.

Being able to make such a complex pamor in past days gone must had called for a truly experienced and/or gifted maker.

Very nice

Thanks,

J.

Indeed...and good assistants...that is not a one man job.
Keep the pictures coming...you folk have shown me pamor I have never dreamed of...wonderful work.

Ric

[Rick]

Here's a portion of a what I suspect is an uncontrolled pamor on a Wilah attributed to Pak Budi .
The black Iron has a couple of shades that I could not bring up with my limited image manipulation skills .

[Rick]

Presented in honor of its originator .

[Atlantia]

Wonderful, beautiful and fascinating Keris gentlemen.

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Rick

Presented in honor of its originator .

Hey Rick,

Whats the deal with that really BLACK stain?
I've got a Keris with a really complex pamor that has a similar very black stain.

[A. G. Maisey]

Pamor colour depends on four things:-

1)--- material

2)--- the skill of the person doing the stain

3)--- the materials available to carry out the stain job

4)--- the weather


these four factors provide the answer to every variation noted in the colour of stained blades

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hey Rick,

Whats the deal with that really BLACK stain?
I've got a Keris with a really complex pamor that has a similar very black stain.

I think Alan covered it buddy .