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Old 20th September 2012, 12:09 PM   #1
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This is crap, you can throw it away, or better just ship it to me All jokes aside, this is an Assadullah Isfahani sword, very beautifully made, get better pictures of the text and I'll translate the text for you. It is a Persian sword, made in the 1600's.
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Old 20th September 2012, 01:29 PM   #2
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It is a Persian sword, made in the 1600's.
What are the arguments this is 17th Century blade? The name AssadUllah has been used since then up until 19th Century.
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Old 20th September 2012, 01:47 PM   #3
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welcome to the forum!

This is a very fine Persian shamshir blade. I find that it has a European hilt very interesting. Maybe its an early Mamluke sabre? I know that Napoleon's army found the swords of Mamlukes very desirable so it could be one.
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Old 20th September 2012, 02:02 PM   #4
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ALEX, Assadullah was a Safavid era swordsmith, and the Safavids ruled during the 1600s. Better pictures of the text would help us clarify that.
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Old 20th September 2012, 02:03 PM   #5
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Early Mamluk??? You mean even earlier than 16th Century? Now it's getting interesting.... Seriously, based on quality of inlay, shape and curvature of the sword it points to 18-19 C. Based on the fact that it has AssadUllah name and French liked Mamluk swords - it could be 16th or 12th C respectively.

"AssadUllah" is one of most copied names, spanning 300+ years. This is certainly hight quality blade, and could be early one, but to determine if earlier than 18th Century, translation and better close-ups are needed.

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Old 20th September 2012, 02:11 PM   #6
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Alex, you are mixing between me and AJ.

What I meant by 'early' mamluke sabre is that its from the early generation of swords taken by Napoleon's army during the invasion of Egypt. to me, the other generation of European 'mamluke' swords are the ones made in Europe with European everything. Napoleon invaded Egypt in the 19th century, yep?

Early Mamluke swords were straight as far as I know :P
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Old 20th September 2012, 02:18 PM   #7
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Got it, Lofty. Thatns for clarification. By 'early' mamluke" I assumed pre-17th Century:-). You're right, those were straight.
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Got it, Lofty. Thatns for clarification. By 'early' mamluke" I assumed pre-17th Century:-). You're right, those were straight.
Hey Alex, nps man.

I wonder, is there more example of such sabres? I remember seeing a painting of some English man with a kilij. Plenty of French men with kilijs too. What made the mamluke sabre ( as in the kilij used by mamlukes of Egypt during the 19th century) desirable by the French? Werent there also fine sabres such as the 1796 LC?

Many questions, but I find it interesting!
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