Unusual Visayan features?

VANDOO · 15th September 2012, 07:25 PM

A BEAUTIFUL SWORD

I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT EXACT HANDLE BEFORE I LIKE IT A LOT. I AGREE IT LOOKS MORE LIKE CORD THAN RATTAN PERHAPS SENNET (COCONUT HUSK CORD) OR SOMETHING ELSE STAINED TO LOOK LIKE IT. PUT ON TO IMPROVE GRIP.
THE SCABBARD LOOKS NEWER BUT STILL HAS SOME AGE AS IT HAS THE PROPER FORM OF RAISED DESIGNS. I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED WHAT THESE DESIGNS MEAN ARE THEY SYMBOLS TO IDENTIFY THE TRIBE OR ARE THEY A TALSMANIC SYMBOL FOR PROTECTION? THEY STRIKE ME AS SOMETHING MORE THAN SIMPLE DECORATION.
THAT IS SOME BEAUTIFUL WOOD IT IS LAYING ON TOO IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO NOTICE AS MY EYES WERE DRAWN TO THE SWORD.

VVV · 15th September 2012, 09:10 PM

Thanks Barry,

I don't have a clue about the designs on the scabbard either.
Maybe Lorenz or some of the other collectors have some ideas?

The wood it's laying on however is my dinner table.

Michael

Robert · 16th September 2012, 09:22 AM

Hello Michael, I am amazed at the great looking swords that you seem to be able to locate. This has got to be one of my favorites. Wonderful carving on the hilt with a beautiful blade combined with a nicely carved scabbard "even if the scabbard turns out a later replacement" it is an item that anyone would be more than happy to have in their collection One question though, what are the two green items at the throat of the scabbard? I would have to agree with Berry on the cording on the hilt, it does look like it could be sennet to me also. My congratulation on your new addition and I must say that I am very envious of you good fortune.

Regards,
Robert

Spunjer · 16th September 2012, 12:56 PM

ok, photobucket is back in session, lol.
notice the twine at the base of the handle. i believe it's similar to the type used on yours. notice also, on another visayan handle: similar type of twine, i think...

VVV · 16th September 2012, 02:23 PM

Thanks Robert,
I am not yet sure what the green items on the scabbard are. I will check closer when I am back home again.

Nice references, Ron.
Do you see any traces of that your resembling sword also had twine all the way along the handle like mine?
What is the guard on your second one made off?

Michael

Gavin Nugent · 16th September 2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV

What is the guard on your second one made off?

Michael

Looks like a piece of antler.

VVV · 16th September 2012, 07:03 PM

Back home again.
My guess is that the green stuff is from some kind of a beetle.

Michael

16th September 2012, 12:56 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	ok, photobucket is back in session, lol. notice the twine at the base of the handle. i believe it's similar to the type used on yours. notice also, on another visayan handle: similar type of twine, i think... Attached Images

15th September 2012, 07:25 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A BEAUTIFUL SWORD I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT EXACT HANDLE BEFORE I LIKE IT A LOT. I AGREE IT LOOKS MORE LIKE CORD THAN RATTAN PERHAPS SENNET (COCONUT HUSK CORD) OR SOMETHING ELSE STAINED TO LOOK LIKE IT. PUT ON TO IMPROVE GRIP. THE SCABBARD LOOKS NEWER BUT STILL HAS SOME AGE AS IT HAS THE PROPER FORM OF RAISED DESIGNS. I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED WHAT THESE DESIGNS MEAN ARE THEY SYMBOLS TO IDENTIFY THE TRIBE OR ARE THEY A TALSMANIC SYMBOL FOR PROTECTION? THEY STRIKE ME AS SOMETHING MORE THAN SIMPLE DECORATION. THAT IS SOME BEAUTIFUL WOOD IT IS LAYING ON TOO IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO NOTICE AS MY EYES WERE DRAWN TO THE SWORD.

15th September 2012, 09:10 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Barry, I don't have a clue about the designs on the scabbard either. Maybe Lorenz or some of the other collectors have some ideas? The wood it's laying on however is my dinner table. Michael

16th September 2012, 09:22 AM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Michael, I am amazed at the great looking swords that you seem to be able to locate. This has got to be one of my favorites. Wonderful carving on the hilt with a beautiful blade combined with a nicely carved scabbard "even if the scabbard turns out a later replacement" it is an item that anyone would be more than happy to have in their collection One question though, what are the two green items at the throat of the scabbard? I would have to agree with Berry on the cording on the hilt, it does look like it could be sennet to me also. My congratulation on your new addition and I must say that I am very envious of you good fortune. Regards, Robert

16th September 2012, 02:23 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Robert, I am not yet sure what the green items on the scabbard are. I will check closer when I am back home again. Nice references, Ron. Do you see any traces of that your resembling sword also had twine all the way along the handle like mine? What is the guard on your second one made off? Michael

16th September 2012, 07:03 PM	#7
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Back home again. My guess is that the green stuff is from some kind of a beetle. Michael