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Old 12th September 2012, 05:40 PM   #1
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Some very cool information can be found by exploring a collection of short Australian Museum videos here.

http://australianmuseum.net.au/movie...from-Mendi-PNG
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Old 12th September 2012, 07:34 PM   #2
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Hi Tim,

nice shield you have bought! Please post pictures from the handle and from the front carvings when you have received it. Quality signs are deep front carvings and age is shown by rounded edges from the front carvings. Do you have bought it from a netherlands seller?

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Old 12th September 2012, 09:34 PM   #3
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Hello Tim,

Finally an Asmat shield http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=asmat+shield

Nice shield with a motif I have not seen before.
Do you have info what this motif is ?

Surely not an "H" , the motif will probably be the shape surrounding the "H" I pressume.

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Old 13th September 2012, 07:41 AM   #4
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I think if you have no idea what a letter ( H ) is and cannot read anyway. The design is probably read as both the red and the White, the purpose is to dazele the design seems to pulse at a glance. One is caught between the red and then the White. Just registering the White it becomes quite compliex. The basic layout of the design is very similar to the shield shown from " Shields of Melanesia". I got this shield here in the UK.

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Old 13th September 2012, 04:38 PM   #5
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I think if you have no idea what a letter ( H ) is and cannot read anyway. The design is probably read as both the red and the White, the purpose is to dazele the design seems to pulse at a glance. One is caught between the red and then the White. Just registering the White it becomes quite compliex. The basic layout of the design is very similar to the shield shown from " Shields of Melanesia". I got this shield here in the UK.
Hi Tim,

I think your shield is indeed around the 70's and the double H can possibly read as "Heilig Hart" or in english " sacred heart"
The mission was very active around the 70 to encourage the Asmat carvers to pick up their old carving traditions. The Asmat sometimes mixed up Roman Catholic symbols in their carvings.
I wil list a pic of an Asmatpanel in my collection.

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Old 13th September 2012, 04:54 PM   #6
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on this panel what is carved in the shape of a church window they placed a Sacred Heart cross on top. However a different carving the basic idea is the same as with your shield.

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Old 13th September 2012, 05:34 PM   #7
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Thats most interesting Arjan. I have to say I see a far more vibrant design on my new shield. I have read that headhunting raids broke out at times into the 80s and later.
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