Strange twist core Moro _____???

Rick · 30th August 2012, 04:54 PM

I'm pretty sure those are cold shuts showing on the blade .

Anorexic Barung ?

VVV · 30th August 2012, 10:20 PM

Thanks for all comments!

Rick, I don't know about cold shuts but I just returned home after seeing Coldplay here in Stockholm and they were GREAT!!!
Maybe it is an anorexic barung with bangkung-envy?

Roy, I diluted the vinegar with hot water and let it sit in it for several hours, after I failed with FeCl.

Thor, I got the FeCl from a fellow collector when he was visiting Sweden. It seems to be hard to buy it here in non-industrial doses.

And I will shoot additional close up pictures tomorrow of the blade details.

Michael

Spunjer · 30th August 2012, 11:01 PM

hello michael,
yup, that's moro. i believe it's similar to this here newer version, tho not as pretty as yours. the local term escapes me at the moment (those darn Sulu terms, lol), but yeah, it's kinda like a barung on weight watchers. yours does looks like it was salvaged from a twistcore kris, but then again, what's the dimension of this beaut you got?
btw, your would be the double edge version, while mine would be the shandigan type...

Battara · 31st August 2012, 02:07 AM

Could it be a shadrigan/sipput barong? I don't know.

Or it could also be a type of Moro piece unaccounted for in the literature?

Interesting whatever it is.

VVV · 31st August 2012, 09:41 AM

Thanks for the reference pictures, Ron!

Mine is quite small - 22" with a 16" blade.
The width is 2 cm closest to the hilt and then reaches 3,3 cm.
On the sides it is like a barong, thick at the back and then an edge all the way on the business side.

It doesn't have any shandigan traits at the center of the blade etc.

Michael

Battara · 1st September 2012, 02:48 AM

If that is the case then it could be a sword type not in Cato (which many things are not in Cato).

Spunjer · 1st September 2012, 05:04 AM

so it's only 3.3cm wide at its widest??? mine is about 2". blade length is 19", total is 23.5".
i guess just like the barung, the older ones were shorter overall?
another thing that strikes me is, if it was a reworked kris, wouldn't the back be not as thick?

30th August 2012, 11:01 PM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	hello michael, yup, that's moro. i believe it's similar to this here newer version, tho not as pretty as yours. the local term escapes me at the moment (those darn Sulu terms, lol), but yeah, it's kinda like a barung on weight watchers. yours does looks like it was salvaged from a twistcore kris, but then again, what's the dimension of this beaut you got? btw, your would be the double edge version, while mine would be the shandigan type... Attached Images

31st August 2012, 09:41 AM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks for the reference pictures, Ron! Mine is quite small - 22" with a 16" blade. The width is 2 cm closest to the hilt and then reaches 3,3 cm. On the sides it is like a barong, thick at the back and then an edge all the way on the business side. It doesn't have any shandigan traits at the center of the blade etc. Michael Attached Images

30th August 2012, 04:54 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I'm pretty sure those are cold shuts showing on the blade . Anorexic Barung ?

30th August 2012, 10:20 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks for all comments! Rick, I don't know about cold shuts but I just returned home after seeing Coldplay here in Stockholm and they were GREAT!!! Maybe it is an anorexic barung with bangkung-envy? Roy, I diluted the vinegar with hot water and let it sit in it for several hours, after I failed with FeCl. Thor, I got the FeCl from a fellow collector when he was visiting Sweden. It seems to be hard to buy it here in non-industrial doses. And I will shoot additional close up pictures tomorrow of the blade details. Michael

31st August 2012, 02:07 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Could it be a shadrigan/sipput barong? I don't know. Or it could also be a type of Moro piece unaccounted for in the literature? Interesting whatever it is.

1st September 2012, 02:48 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	If that is the case then it could be a sword type not in Cato (which many things are not in Cato).

1st September 2012, 05:04 AM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	so it's only 3.3cm wide at its widest??? mine is about 2". blade length is 19", total is 23.5". i guess just like the barung, the older ones were shorter overall? another thing that strikes me is, if it was a reworked kris, wouldn't the back be not as thick?