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Not the story, correct ? No sense in getting sidetracked . ![]() |
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Now, let's get back to talking about blades. ![]() Last edited by Rick; 29th August 2012 at 12:18 AM. |
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God, I hate it when the moon is near full ......
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Hi Rick, If you look at the two Pesh-kabz that TW has just got, then your's is more like the buffalo hilted one. T section blade and 'essentially' a flat sided blade leading to a angled flat ground edge that runs straight off of it. On yours the edge grinding is more clearly defined. The other one I'd say is probobly 19thC. The hilt may be Ivory or bone and the blade is actually hollow ground of a sort, rising to the 'T' spine and also rising to a shoulder before the flat ground edge. I would expect this one to have a fairly high probability of being wootz. |
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Next this Choora.
The one with the 'orange hilt' is a fairly standard modern type. The other one is a bit more interesting. The hilt appears to be Ivory. Notice the concentric age cracks? Could that be Walrus! The top of the spine is nicely worked and has an attached plate with what looks like it might be an inscription in Arabic. Unusual in my experience. Perhaps a close-up will be translatable by Lotfy? |
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This is an interesting group. Very much a 'grab bag' of Afghani weapons.
Some good, some average, some look to have had recent work done on them. The antique Military scabbards (just look at those steel drags!) are quite unusual. If the swords within are original then the mouth of the scabbard won't have marks or room for the three bar knuckle bow type and the swords might even have military stamps somewhere. The sword with the Persian-esq chiselling is cute. Hilt looks very recent, could it be an older blade? A nice and interesting lot. |
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Bad eyes on my part, I guess . ![]() I expect only the owner can confirm the scale material . ![]() Y'know, it sure looks like the edge on my piece was cut with a sharp instrument rather than being ground . |
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Spiral, please empty your inbox .
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Where were we...
My observations From the top: The first piece I'd guess, is post WWII. It has the little circle disigns, you often see from this era. From North Africa, to India. Hilt is ram's horn, and steel. Suede covered wood scabbard, with galvanized sheet metal fittings. The second knife, looks to be old, with a plain wood handle. Nice patina, with a small amount of decoration. Several forging flaws. Military scabbard. Number three, has an identical patina, and is also lightly decorated. Horn, and steel handle looks to be a fairly recent replacement. Military scabbard. The blade on number four has an old looking patina, but also the unusual Indo Persian engraving. Hilt is horn, bone, and steel, and looks replaced. Scabbard is soft leather, over sheet metal. The two on the right, are missing scabbards: The larger one, looks to be the newest, at less than 20 years old. Hilt is brass, ram, and steel. The smaller one, has the same patina, as the two in military scabbards. And is similarly decorated. Hilt is ram, and steel. It's missing the steel portion of the hilt, on the opposite side. The hilt of the "orange" Choora, is made of ivory-celuloid. If made in the US, I'd say 1920-40. Elsewhere in the world, I don't know. Workmanship is good, but looks like production work. The smaller one, does have an ivory hilt, and is very well made, and decorated. I think it is pretty old, and was made for someone of status. The smallest one, is tourista all the way. Bone and brass handle, with the same little circles. Post WWII. The grips on the light handled Pesh-kabz, are ram's horn, and were replaced, a very long time ago. Blade looks very old, with deep pitting. Some decoration on the spine. I believe it to be the oldest. The dark handle, is horn, and has several repairs. Blade has the most pleasing patina, and has never been sharpened since it was made. I think it is very old, as well. Well, that's my long winded observations, of an area I know next to nothing about. |
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All I have to add is that cache is the bargain of a lifetime. Looks like you just found yourself a niche!
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I have a severe case of C.A.D.D. (Collector's Attention Deficit Disorder) I find my niche, all the time!
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If you hold a Rhino hilt in your wet hand it will stick to the skin; not like glue, but it will not feel slippery that is .
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