MOST DESIRED OCEANIC WAR CLUBS 1: MARQUESAS

VANDOO · 9th August 2012, 10:49 PM

HERE ARE SOME OF THE MORE RECENT ART CARVINGS THEY ARE STILL DOING TODAY. THE QUALITY VARIES FROM VERY GOOD TO VERY POOR BUT SO FAR ALL I HAVE SEEN HAVE BEEN HAND CARVED WOOD BUT NO DOUBT MACHINE CARVED AND RESIN ONES ARE POSSIBLE. THE OLDER CARVINGS SEEM TO BE BETTER 1950'S THRU 1960'S. THE ITEMS ARE USUALLY SIZED TO FIT IN A SUITCASE SO FULL SIZED CLUBS ARE NOT AVAILABLE. SOME ITEMS ARE CARVED IN THE TRADITIONAL FORM BUT MANY HAVE SERRATED EDGES AS WELL AS PIERCED CARVINGS THRU OUT WITH LOTS OF TIKIS WHERE THEY WOULD NOT BE IN THE OLD TRADITIONS AND DESIGNS. PICTURE 11 IS OF THE BIG END OF A CEREMONIAL PADDLE. OTHERS ARE DAGGERS OR SHORT SPEAR TYPE WEAPONS AND CLUBS.

PERHAPS MEMBER ASH WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME PICTURES AND INFORMATION TO THE POST ON HIS Uu EXAMPLE AS IT IS A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THOSE ALREADY PICTURED. HINT HINT

apolaki · 10th August 2012, 04:13 AM

I saw these for short handle replicas for sale at Polynesian cultural center. It was expensive though.. I think this club is beautiful nonetheless!

T. Koch · 10th August 2012, 07:02 AM

Wow Vandoo, thankyou for an awesome post! I already enjoyed your previous, but smaller post on the Uu Uu, which was the first time I'd heard about it. I knew next to nothing about clubs and wooden weapons before coming here and I don't collect them myself, so your posts has already taught me a lot. The Uu Uu, has got to be the most character-full clubs I've seen - these guys have got personallity for certain!

- actually after your previous post on the Uu Uu, my girlfriend said something like 'Aww, he's the cutest weapon in the world..."

Thanks for everything!

All the best, - Thor

VANDOO · 10th August 2012, 08:29 PM

HERE ARE PICTURES OF MY 3 EXAMPLES THE TWO LARGER ONES ARE PRE WW2 BUT HAVE BEEN BADLY TREATED BY A PREVIOUS OWNER FOR HANGING ON A WALL LONG AGO. THE SMALLER ONE IS A MORE RECENT SMALL SIZE TOURIST ART ITEM BUT VERY WELL DONE OF A HARD HEAVY WOOD. I WOULD NOT WISH TO BE CONKED BY ANY OF THEM.

THE LONGEST IS 46 INCHES, SECOND 42 INCHES AND THE BABY BEAR IS 23 3/4IN. LONG. NONE ARE GOOD OLD PRE CONTACT EXAMPLES.
SOME PICTURES OF OTHER TOURIST ARTS SOME ADZ AND ANOTHER CLUB FORM.

VANDOO · 10th August 2012, 08:43 PM

HERE ARE THE LAST 2 ITEMS I WILL POST FROM THE MARQUESAS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CLUB FORM. FEEL FREE TO ADD ANY APPROPRIATE PICTURES OR INFORMATION, THE MORE INFORMATION, COMMENTS AND EXAMPLES PICTURED THE BETTER THE REFRENCE.
1. ADZ 2. TOURIST ART CLUB

lordkoos · 11th August 2012, 07:29 AM

It's interesting to me how some of the carved motifs resemble native American and Canadian art from the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

VANDOO · 11th August 2012, 07:22 PM

THOUGH THE INFLUENCES IN ART AND BELIEFS ARE SEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD. BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WRITTEN HISTORY OF OCEANIC MIGRATION OR ITS MANY EPIC VOYAGES IT IS LARGELY IGNORED.
THUS WE ONLY HEAR OF COLUMBUS, MAGELLAN AND CAPTIAN COOK NOT THOSE WHO ARRIVED BEFORE THEM WITH THE CULTURES THEY FOUND ON THEIR ARRIVAL.
THERE ARE MANY SIMULARITYS IN THE ART OF THE PEUBLO DWELLING TRIBES OF AMERICA AND IN ANCIENT CHINESE ART ESPECIALLY EARLY POTTERY. NORTHWEST AND OCEANIC ART ALSO HAS MANY SIMULARITYS WITH ASIA. WE KNOW SO LITTLE BUT TRY TO PUT THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER KNOWING THAT MANY PIECES ARE MISSING.

9th August 2012, 10:49 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE ARE SOME OF THE MORE RECENT ART CARVINGS THEY ARE STILL DOING TODAY. THE QUALITY VARIES FROM VERY GOOD TO VERY POOR BUT SO FAR ALL I HAVE SEEN HAVE BEEN HAND CARVED WOOD BUT NO DOUBT MACHINE CARVED AND RESIN ONES ARE POSSIBLE. THE OLDER CARVINGS SEEM TO BE BETTER 1950'S THRU 1960'S. THE ITEMS ARE USUALLY SIZED TO FIT IN A SUITCASE SO FULL SIZED CLUBS ARE NOT AVAILABLE. SOME ITEMS ARE CARVED IN THE TRADITIONAL FORM BUT MANY HAVE SERRATED EDGES AS WELL AS PIERCED CARVINGS THRU OUT WITH LOTS OF TIKIS WHERE THEY WOULD NOT BE IN THE OLD TRADITIONS AND DESIGNS. PICTURE 11 IS OF THE BIG END OF A CEREMONIAL PADDLE. OTHERS ARE DAGGERS OR SHORT SPEAR TYPE WEAPONS AND CLUBS. PERHAPS MEMBER ASH WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME PICTURES AND INFORMATION TO THE POST ON HIS Uu EXAMPLE AS IT IS A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THOSE ALREADY PICTURED. HINT HINT Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 10th August 2012 at 08:17 PM.

10th August 2012, 08:29 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE ARE PICTURES OF MY 3 EXAMPLES THE TWO LARGER ONES ARE PRE WW2 BUT HAVE BEEN BADLY TREATED BY A PREVIOUS OWNER FOR HANGING ON A WALL LONG AGO. THE SMALLER ONE IS A MORE RECENT SMALL SIZE TOURIST ART ITEM BUT VERY WELL DONE OF A HARD HEAVY WOOD. I WOULD NOT WISH TO BE CONKED BY ANY OF THEM. THE LONGEST IS 46 INCHES, SECOND 42 INCHES AND THE BABY BEAR IS 23 3/4IN. LONG. NONE ARE GOOD OLD PRE CONTACT EXAMPLES. SOME PICTURES OF OTHER TOURIST ARTS SOME ADZ AND ANOTHER CLUB FORM. Attached Images

10th August 2012, 08:43 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE ARE THE LAST 2 ITEMS I WILL POST FROM THE MARQUESAS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CLUB FORM. FEEL FREE TO ADD ANY APPROPRIATE PICTURES OR INFORMATION, THE MORE INFORMATION, COMMENTS AND EXAMPLES PICTURED THE BETTER THE REFRENCE. 1. ADZ 2. TOURIST ART CLUB Attached Images

10th August 2012, 04:13 AM	#2
apolaki Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 160	I saw these for short handle replicas for sale at Polynesian cultural center. It was expensive though.. I think this club is beautiful nonetheless!

10th August 2012, 07:02 AM	#3
T. Koch Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mother North Posts: 189	Wow Vandoo, thankyou for an awesome post! I already enjoyed your previous, but smaller post on the Uu Uu, which was the first time I'd heard about it. I knew next to nothing about clubs and wooden weapons before coming here and I don't collect them myself, so your posts has already taught me a lot. The Uu Uu, has got to be the most character-full clubs I've seen - these guys have got personallity for certain! - actually after your previous post on the Uu Uu, my girlfriend said something like 'Aww, he's the cutest weapon in the world..." Thanks for everything! All the best, - Thor

11th August 2012, 07:29 AM	#6
lordkoos Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 22	It's interesting to me how some of the carved motifs resemble native American and Canadian art from the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

11th August 2012, 07:22 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THOUGH THE INFLUENCES IN ART AND BELIEFS ARE SEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD. BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WRITTEN HISTORY OF OCEANIC MIGRATION OR ITS MANY EPIC VOYAGES IT IS LARGELY IGNORED. THUS WE ONLY HEAR OF COLUMBUS, MAGELLAN AND CAPTIAN COOK NOT THOSE WHO ARRIVED BEFORE THEM WITH THE CULTURES THEY FOUND ON THEIR ARRIVAL. THERE ARE MANY SIMULARITYS IN THE ART OF THE PEUBLO DWELLING TRIBES OF AMERICA AND IN ANCIENT CHINESE ART ESPECIALLY EARLY POTTERY. NORTHWEST AND OCEANIC ART ALSO HAS MANY SIMULARITYS WITH ASIA. WE KNOW SO LITTLE BUT TRY TO PUT THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER KNOWING THAT MANY PIECES ARE MISSING.