small indonésian knife for identification

[mohd]

Originally Posted by Sajen

.. the first two are badiks and the other both are sirauis ..

Agree with Detlef, the first two are Badiks and the last two are Sirauis.

Originally Posted by VANDOO

#1 & #2 ARE WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS REFERED TO AS BADE BADE MOSTLY MALAYSIAN IN ORIGIN IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ..

IMVHO the term Bade Bade is either not in used any longer or it never used at all but a misspelling of the earlier orientalist. I believe the term Bade Bade is only found in the old text written by orientalist or it might be found in the net but in websites belong to people from the west!

For example, refer to the following picture!



All the naming confusion are there and the misspelling that doesn't comply with the correct pronunciation are also exist there!
If you show the the knife in the above picture to any Malay or Sumatran or Javanese then they will simply say that it is a Rencong (i.e. pronounce as REN + CHONG).
IMVHO the blade doesn't simply become antique just because it is spelled with the old unused spelling!
And IMVHO I'm not simply become an expert just by using the old unused spelling for those blades, am I?
I raised this issue here because I found out that there are so many wrong or weird spelling that are not in used any longer exist in discussion about the Southeast Asian blades.

mohd