Large Junggayan Kris

[Spunjer]

Jose, you mentioned:

The documented Maranao blades I have seen do have some "jutting" out of the bottom of the ganga, but the "elephant" section of the ganga does not have an "eye" and are a little larger, whereas the documented Maguindanao ones I have seen have an "eye" and do not stand as tall as the Maranao and the top of the "trunk" has deeper cuts than those of the Maranao.

so here's a junggayan that has the jutting jaw,and to top it all, it doesn't have an eye. now if we go by cato's classification once again this particular kris is a classic Maranao, and the one above is Maguindanao. incidentally the so called Maranao is much larger than the Maguindanao.

[ThePepperSkull]

Admit it Ron, you just wanted to show your beautiful kris off

[Rick]

Originally Posted by ThePepperSkull

Admit it Ron, you just wanted to show your beautiful kris off

Yeah, Ron ..

Anyway, I was wondering about the cohesiveness of the Mindanao and the Sulu Moro groups over the centuries .

I'm somewhat aware of the Iranun role as slavers for Sulu, still; would most blades be exchanged through trade or capture ?

Is this something we can only guess at ?

[Spunjer]

hah! wait til i post this archaic kris i was working on last night and found out it has a round tang, pepperskull...

IMHO, Rick, i wouldn't say most, but i'm sure there were trades. i'm with you that at this point the most we can do is guess. as far as cato's classification, they're mere guidelines at best.
gotta go to work. will elaborate later...

[Battara]

Thanks Ron for the back up (and for once again showing us some of your toys).

I also agree that these are not hard rules but guidelines given by Cato.

[CharlesS]

I was with Battara when he was trying to decide about buying this piece. Then, there was a lot of hand wringing debating the decision....now there's a lot of hand clapping!!!

Congrats!

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Then, there was a lot of hand wringing debating the decision....now there's a lot of hand clapping!!!

Congrats!

true dat. really, it's so nice how it finally came out...

And this is a very apt example for this thread because this is another nice restoration with that entire tail section newly carved and added on to complete this junggayan. A great job there.

yes sir! can't thank you enough for the head's up on this particular piece!!!

[David]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

Jose, you mentioned:

so here's a junggayan that has the jutting jaw,and to top it all, it doesn't have an eye. now if we go by cato's classification once again this particular kris is a classic Maranao, and the one above is Maguindanao. incidentally the so called Maranao is much larger than the Maguindanao.

And this is a very apt example for this thread because this is another nice restoration with that entire tail section newly carved and added on to complete this junggayan. A great job there.