Nimcha (?) with European Blade for Comments

[broadaxe]

Hello all, this is super important conversation. My personal points: 1. Negev/Sinai sa'ifs do have, rarely, d-guards - sometimes of steel, sometimes even aluminum (I will post photos later on if there is interest).
2. It appears scabbards show a lot of diversity as for the external layer and design, over the wood clam - leather with metal fittings, rawhide, parchment, velvet (mostly current).
3. Blades also show great diversity, and I have some surprizes up my sleeve.
4. This particular saber looks all-beduin, but I think of Saudi origin because of the pommel recess. Could be also from the eastern shores of Sinai.

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by broadaxe

Hello all, this is super important conversation. My personal points: 1. Negev/Sinai sa'ifs do have, rarely, d-guards - sometimes of steel, sometimes even aluminum (I will post photos later on if there is interest).
2. It appears scabbards show a lot of diversity as for the external layer and design, over the wood clam - leather with metal fittings, rawhide, parchment, velvet (mostly current).
3. Blades also show great diversity, and I have some surprizes up my sleeve.
4. This particular saber looks all-beduin, but I think of Saudi origin because of the pommel recess. Could be also from the eastern shores of Sinai.

There you are!!!!!
Ive been hoping you would come in on this, and I for one would really like you to detail more on these fascinating weapons. Your long established knowledge on these would really benefit this thread as an informational source in classification.

All the best,
Jim

[broadaxe]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

There you are!!!!!
Ive been hoping you would come in on this, and I for one would really like you to detail more on these fascinating weapons. Your long established knowledge on these would really benefit this thread as an informational source in classification.

All the best,
Jim

Thanks Jim, I'm always here. I was considering for a long time, the thought of making some sort of publication, but as I have a long list of obligations I tend to do it here, as posts. The bedouin sa'if is an ellusive thing to define and we can classify three groups: shashka-type, shamshir-type, and 'others' (non-standard, secondary use, reshaped).


Im with you, as I have always thought of publishing some sort of monographs on certain weapons and forms, however the research is always so constantly in flux on so many fields it has been hard to focus on one.
Like you, this has been my 'published' venue, and that is great as these are sort of living publications since they have the wonderful dimension of constant discussion and input as new evidence becomes available. What better sort of archived material could there be!
I hope you will add data on these here, and as so many archived threads this will become a most important resource for continued study.

All the best,
Jim

[ariel]

OK, Lotfi, you asked for it :-)
I just warn you: nothing pretty....
Ladies and gentlemen, you have an honor to see a modern ( ~20 years old) sword of the Negev beduin fabrication!

[ariel]

The show must go on...

[Dom]

Originally Posted by ariel

OK, Lotfi, you asked for it :-)
I just warn you: nothing pretty....
Ladies and gentlemen, you have an honor to see a modern ( ~20 years old) sword of the Negev beduin fabrication!

I will not add any comment ... but as said the Bedouin
- arsane el balaiche

can be translated as; better than nothing

à +

Dom

[broadaxe]

Oooh, believe me, I've seen worse... This one is at least an honest attempt to recreate the old Turkish form.

[A.alnakkas]

LOL I find it strangely attractive :P

Certainly an interesting example to have. Most modern pieces made in Syria and KSA are too shiney.