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Old 24th June 2012, 06:04 PM   #1
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Seems to be a East Java or Madura keris with pamor adeg. How is the fit inside the sheath?

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Hi Detlef,

Thanks for coming in on this one.
LOL, not a good fit in the sheath. How did you know?
I've not seen this shape grip or type of pamor before, are they unsual?
The pamor is like a river and the grip is like a sheeps head!

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Old 24th June 2012, 06:19 PM   #2
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Well Detlef knows alot
Anyway, since he is away, the sheath is Central Javanese style which might give an early indication that it might be latter fitted. Nice keris regardless. Other member might be able to elaborate further.
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Well Detlef knows alot

Lol, not enough!!
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Old 24th June 2012, 06:30 PM   #4
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Lol, not enough!!
Oh, come on...
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Well Detlef knows alot
Anyway, since he is away, the sheath is Central Javanese style which might give an early indication that it might be latter fitted. Nice keris regardless. Other member might be able to elaborate further.

Thanks Tunggulametung

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Old 24th June 2012, 11:28 PM   #6
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I'm in agreement with what has already been said, but I'll add this:- we would name this pamor as adeg sapu (standing broom), and this one is one of the better ones I've seen, its well executed and well preserved, a nice keris.
The mendak is Madura, the hilt is unusual in its simplicity, the wrongko is a terusan (one piece).

All in all this is a very nice bit of gear.
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I'm in agreement with what has already been said, but I'll add this:- we would name this pamor as adeg sapu (standing broom), and this one is one of the better ones I've seen, its well executed and well preserved, a nice keris.
The mendak is Madura, the hilt is unusual in its simplicity, the wrongko is a terusan (one piece).

All in all this is a very nice bit of gear.

HI Alan,

Thanks for the help glad you like it. I've got to ask, why 'standing broom'?

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Old 25th June 2012, 12:11 AM   #8
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Gene, here is a photo of a Javanese --- or I guess Indonesian --- sapu lidhi:- a broom made from the rib of a coconut leaf.

Using your artistic eye, can you see a similarity between the coconut ribs that form the broom and the strips of pamor in the keris?
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Old 25th June 2012, 12:16 AM   #9
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Gene, here is a photo of a Javanese --- or I guess Indonesian --- sapu lidhi:- a broom made from the rib of a coconut leaf.

Using your artistic eye, can you see a similarity between the coconut ribs that form the broom and the strips of pamor in the keris?

LOL!! I must admit that I assumed such a well executed pattern would have a 'deeper' significance that that.

I do see what you mean though.

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Hi Detlef,

Thanks for coming in on this one.
LOL, not a good fit in the sheath. How did you know?
I've not seen this shape grip or type of pamor before, are they unsual?
The pamor is like a river and the grip is like a sheeps head!

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Gene

Hi Gene,

hilt is donoriko type from Madura, sheath like Chandra write is Central Java, by the blade I am unsure but think East Java.

Both are not uncommon to answer your question.

Like Chandra I think that others will be able to tell you more.

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Hi Gene,

hilt is donoriko type from Madura, sheath like Chandra write is Central Java, by the blade I am unsure but think East Java.

Both are not uncommon to answer your question.

Like Chandra I think that others will be able to tell you more.

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Detlef

Oh well, not uncommon but pleasing to the eye and hand too.
Thanks Detlef.

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